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Ok, since i made an ass of myself and posted my SC badness in the SC2 unit thread, if anyone is willing to help me out with my general SC gameplay that'd be nice.. basically when i get rushed by lings as terran i get fucked because I cant micro my marines to kill the lings, even if there is more Ms than lings.. i've got a really shitty BO that i use which is:
i get 9 scv's mining
10th scv makes depot
then mines, 11th makes barracks
12-max mine
when 11 is done with first Bar. makes another
another depot
then i get gas
then by this point i've been rushed and i'm fucked..
but, if i dont get rolled by this point i try to make siege tanks and try to all-in with those and firebats and marines, but everytime it seems that i always get smashed by cannons/tanks/colonies.. here's an example of how bad i am, i had 3 tanks and i got out-micro'd by 4 marines........(against the computer)
please help me!
thanks all..
-sG
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Sc Training..
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, Jun 04 2010 10:16 PM
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 10:49 PM
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I don't see anything in that BO that involves scouting, if you don't scout, your more than likely going to lose.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 02:35 AM
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QUOTE (re.copy @ Jun 4 2010, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see anything in that BO that involves scouting, if you don't scout, your more than likely going to lose.
Not entirely true, if he doesn't know too many build orders scouting might not prove any worth to him other than him knowing where the enemy is.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:36 AM
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http://wiki.teamliqu...Terran_Strategy
This will help you alot. Also watch progame and the like on teamliquid.
This will help you alot. Also watch progame and the like on teamliquid.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (KingdomZero @ Jun 5 2010, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not entirely true, if he doesn't know too many build orders scouting might not prove any worth to him other than him knowing where the enemy is.
I don't know many build orders also, scouting is pretty important tbh, and I have done a lot better when I have efficiently scouted the enemy.
And also it's good practice once he gets into a higher level of the game.
Also try to build everything faster each time, I find that if I just run through a build order as fast as i can in single player without an opponent(computer) I find new ways to make myself build something faster than before. Building faster than opponent = Advantage
Seconds do build up, and so do units. That one extra unit might be game changing.
Edited by re.copy, 05 June 2010 - 09:44 AM.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 10:44 AM
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misread title, my mistake, carry on chaps
Edited by Toasted, 05 June 2010 - 01:53 PM.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 01:19 PM
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 03:38 PM
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Answering all questions / comments here -
I know that scouting is important, i used to play cnc3 and ra3 so i know what to do in those games if i scout the enemy doing something w/building or units, but im so unfamiliar with sc that idk what each building means for every class yet..
secondly, i am not playing brood war, just standard SC..
I know that scouting is important, i used to play cnc3 and ra3 so i know what to do in those games if i scout the enemy doing something w/building or units, but im so unfamiliar with sc that idk what each building means for every class yet..
secondly, i am not playing brood war, just standard SC..
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (sG Core asheS @ Jun 5 2010, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
secondly, i am not playing brood war, just standard SC..
ROFL
who the fuck is playing sc w/o brood war? especially online?
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I'd hit it tbh. Especially if it's dead.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:10 PM
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meh, don't like BW..
but...yeah P:
but...yeah P:
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (sG Core asheS @ Jun 6 2010, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
meh, don't like BW..
but...yeah P:
but...yeah P:
There is no point learing SC without BW seriously.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (sG Core asheS @ Jun 6 2010, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
meh, don't like BW..
but...yeah P:
but...yeah P:
vanilla sc is pretty shit, poor balance and non-existant community.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:21 PM
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alright, ill start playing bw.. brb gaming 
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 12:38 PM
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You have to always scout otherwise build orders are useless. For example I was playin PvZ and when i scouted at my 12th probe I saw that he was just makin his pool. I didn't micro my probe and within 15 secs it was killed. I just assumed that he was doing a pretty basic build goin for maybe roaches or somethin but he went mass lings and with the build order i used I had only 1 zeal to defend. Something I never used to was send out a second probe if my first scout got killed to early but I'm doin that a lot more now. If it survives for about 2-3 minutes tho I tend to just go robo and scout with an observer
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 08:22 PM
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Christ, that is seriously a horrible build order. Where did you find that?
Its way too slow. You'll get pulverized by any early game aggressive build.
Go to liquipedia and look up some proper terran builds. Watch some pro replays as well to see what they do.
But if you still insist on continuing with the build, then remember that its quite plausible to use your SCVs to kill a few lings and protect your base. Never let the zerg pick off your SCVs one at a time.
Also, learn how to wall your base. This does wonders with blocking off lings and creates a sort of makeshift bunker for your marines.
Its way too slow. You'll get pulverized by any early game aggressive build.
Go to liquipedia and look up some proper terran builds. Watch some pro replays as well to see what they do.
But if you still insist on continuing with the build, then remember that its quite plausible to use your SCVs to kill a few lings and protect your base. Never let the zerg pick off your SCVs one at a time.
Also, learn how to wall your base. This does wonders with blocking off lings and creates a sort of makeshift bunker for your marines.
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