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[ArKonIte]

If you want serious answers RideMyPwny, I'd suggest posting in the debate section.

Personally, I prefer to date catholic girls (ones without mustaches just to make that clear) to avoid the whole religion thing in relationships. You're waaaaay to young to be getting married tbh. I wouldn't want to get married as soon as I got out of school. Especially if you're doubting the whole religion thing with her.

My theory is that in the end, you both will become athiests and not give a fuck. But since you said she was very religious, I doubt she would become athiest. I don't know anything about you two but basing on what you said... I'd say that you two weren't meant to be.

For the people who say fuck religion:
It's pretty much a lose/lose situation for you.
If you don't believe in God and he does exist: You're fucked.
If you do believe in God and he does exist: Fuckin A
If you don't believe in God and he doesn't exist: Oh well.
If you do believe in God and he doesn't exist: Oh well.

[ya_ba]

First off, why are people rushing off to get married? =\
I mean.. You've got your entire life ahead of you, why wouldn't you just take it slow?
Anyhow - religious differences make a relationship a lot harder, but not impossible.

[Walternat0r]

Marriage is just a way for setting yourself up for a major fall. Ie; divorce and losing half your wealth.

You could live your entire life with 1 woman, live together and have kids, share bank accounts, both have your name on the deeds of a property, do everything together exactly the same way as you could being married. Only difference being there wouldn't be a piece of paper showing that you're basically legally obligated to this person. ALSO, in the UK you get more benefits for being a single parent, than being married, sweet huh?

Back on topic though, I think that if she's absolutely fanatically set on converting you, but you don't want to, then tell her to hush her noise. You can't just become a christian because she wants you too. Much better to stick to your own beliefs than pretend you believe in something different. Besides, if she's properly into you it wont matter what you believe, just that you love her and blah blah blah

[Master C]

OP:

Forget marriage and family for the moment. Just forget it, you're way too young. Just go with the flow for the moment and see what happens.

If you want serious answers RideMyPwny, I'd suggest posting in the debate section.

Personally, I prefer to date catholic girls (ones without mustaches just to make that clear) to avoid the whole religion thing in relationships. You're waaaaay to young to be getting married tbh. I wouldn't want to get married as soon as I got out of school. Especially if you're doubting the whole religion thing with her.

My theory is that in the end, you both will become athiests and not give a fuck. But since you said she was very religious, I doubt she would become athiest. I don't know anything about you two but basing on what you said... I'd say that you two weren't meant to be.

For the people who say fuck religion:
It's pretty much a lose/lose situation for you.
If you don't believe in God and he does exist: You're fucked.
If you do believe in God and he does exist: Fuckin A
If you don't believe in God and he doesn't exist: Oh well.
If you do believe in God and he doesn't exist: Oh well.

A god who gives you a free ticket to heaven just for believing in him isnt a god worth worshipping. GG to you and your fearful beliefs buddy.

Edited by Master C, 12 April 2009 - 07:47 AM.

[ya_ba]

OP:

Forget marriage and family for the moment. Just forget it, you're way too young. Just go with the flow for the moment and see what happens.



A god who gives you a free ticket to heaven just for believing in him isnt a god worth worshipping. GG to you and your fearful beliefs buddy.

What he said.
Word for word.

[Cypher.bleu]

For the people who say fuck religion:
It's pretty much a lose/lose situation for you.
If you don't believe in God and he does exist: You're fucked.
If you do believe in God and he does exist: Fuckin A
If you don't believe in God and he doesn't exist: Oh well.
If you do believe in God and he doesn't exist: Oh well.

Ah, Pascal's wager.

What about the tiny fact you forgot to mention about it's not simply a believe/don't believe situation, rather there are thousands of religions (millions over the history of humanity) out there and the chances of worshiping the "right" god is pretty much naught? Should a god exist of course.

[*SaPpHiRe*]

The way I see it, you should just go on with your relationship as things are for now. You two are still young, and will learn to grow up a little more before you're mature and really ready for marriage.

If she's really the right one for you, then she will come to accept the fact that you have your own set of beliefs, she has her own, and you should both just do your own thing when it comes down to it. It's not right to impose your religious beliefs on someone, or force them to convert; it's actually very disrespectful. If she wants to raise her family according to her beliefs, then it's just up to you to let the future kids get that education, and being accepting of that should be okay. But your religion does not change who you are as a person, and if she really loves you she should accept you as you are, and respect your choices. If you're supportive and loving and a good "husband/boyfriend", she really shouldn't make a big deal out of religion, as long as your not imposing anything against hers.

that's just my 2 cents

[Lt ledhead]

The way I see it, you should just go on with your relationship as things are for now. You two are still young, and will learn to grow up a little more before you're mature and really ready for marriage.

If she's really the right one for you, then she will come to accept the fact that you have your own set of beliefs, she has her own, and you should both just do your own thing when it comes down to it. It's not right to impose your religious beliefs on someone, or force them to convert; it's actually very disrespectful. If she wants to raise her family according to her beliefs, then it's just up to you to let the future kids get that education, and being accepting of that should be okay. But your religion does not change who you are as a person, and if she really loves you she should accept you as you are, and respect your choices. If you're supportive and loving and a good "husband/boyfriend", she really shouldn't make a big deal out of religion, as long as your not imposing anything against hers.

that's just my 2 cents

this tbh

[IrishSpuds]

I do know that it's about having a god and three gods at the same time.

You know that? FOR A FACT??? HOLY SHIT DUDE! YOU ARE THE NEW MESSIAH!!!

On a serious note, the trinity is an approach that one God has three different forms. The Father (which is God's most known form, the creator), The Son (Jesus), and The Holy Spirit (which is pretty much the feeling that comes inside you when you accept Jesus Christ. It is what helps to guide you on your path of righteousness).

One God, three forms. Much different that One God being three gods.

[Weiman]

Okay..a few points I have about this.

One thing before anything, IMO you are WAY too young to get married. Perhaps it's normal where you live, but at 18 you are far from full maturity, and not ready to commit your entire life to one other person. This is part of the reason why divorce rates have gone up.. you hit a bump in the road and take the easy way out.

I wonder WHY she wants you and your entire family to be Christian. There could be multiple reasons for this.. it might be because she thinks you should be a christian because christianity is the true way and/or everyone should really be a christian.
Or the second.. she is that hardcore about her religion that she CARES about you and wants you to be in the afterlife with her. This is a reason with love behind it. The second is borderline fascism to me. Converting people to your beliefs simply because you think they should is incredibly arrogant IMO. As a Christian she should understand people have their own choices and respect that.

[j type]

I wonder WHY she wants you and your entire family to be Christian. There could be multiple reasons for this.. it might be because she thinks you should be a christian because christianity is the true way and/or everyone should really be a christian.
Or the second.. she is that hardcore about her religion that she CARES about you and wants you to be in the afterlife with her. This is a reason with love behind it. The second is borderline fascism to me. Converting people to your beliefs simply because you think they should is incredibly arrogant IMO. As a Christian she should understand people have their own choices and respect that.

Or third - that's what her family wants. Don't underestimate that as a potentially massive influence on her decisions and ambitions.

Edited by j type, 12 April 2009 - 01:25 PM.

[Verrückter]

Become a pagan.

ALL HAIL THOR !

[ArmoredSandwich]

Things are going great for us the only problem, I believe, is religion.

Oh no.

she wants me to convert and have a complete Christian family.

That's the problem!

As Weiman said, there can be a couple of reasons she wants that. Find out why, do something about it or bail out.



And I wouldn't marry anytime soon! Seems like a horrible idea either way!

[Pawnator]

Happy Easter everyone!

[j type]

Happy Easter everyone!

Pagan celebration.

[Pawnator]

Pagan celebration.

Pagan is a meanie word.

Easter (Pascha) is actually not a "pagan" celebration, it is rather a modification of Passover that was later augmented with "pagan" traditions (no, not by evil catholic masterminds trying to win converts, but through your run-of-the-mill cultural synthesis.)

Edited by Pawnator, 12 April 2009 - 04:02 PM.

[CORNELIOUS THE CONQUEROR]

Differences dont have to be issues. My beliefs are always evolving. I would question hers, not aggressively but enquisitively in an appropriate situation. Maybe this will help her to better understand her beliefs, you too, then a compromise should be obvious.

I believe X is Y so you must also = bad relationship

[some dude]

relationships based on religion never last
look at god and the virgin mary

also: religion is fail

Edited by some dude, 12 April 2009 - 06:37 PM.

[ya_ba]

Become a pagan.

ALL HAIL THOR !

I love you.

[techno-ninja]

The bloke i was with at 17 i now have a restraining order against.



Jus' saying