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O Noes! Night Shifts Cause Canc0rz!

Started by Starblaiz , Mar 16 2009 05:36 PM

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:36 PM

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http://news.bbc.co.u...lth/1108590.stm

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The statistical study from the Institute of Cancer Epidemiology is the most compelling evidence yet of a link between the two.


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There are lies, damn lies, and statistics


Seriously, breast cancer from night shifts? I think even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist would piss themselves laughing at that one!

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:37 PM

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Don't you get it ?

EVERYTHING CAUSES CANCER !
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:39 PM

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Dr Tim Key, a senior epidemiologist at the Imperial Cancer Research Fund, said that although the suspicion that night-working was a factor had been around for a while, little evidence existed.

He said: "This hypothesis (that disruption of hormone secretion patterns by disturbed exposure to light or to electromagnetic fields might increase breast cancer risk) was put forward in the 1980s.

"Since then it has received some support from various studies, but is still very much a hypothesis rather than an established fact."


Well its based on something at least :/


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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:40 PM

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Statistically, they were 50% more likely to develop the disease.

thats pretty big actually, still it is just a hypothesis
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:54 PM

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In my opinion, stupid ass statistics like this dont take into account the type of people who work night shifts, or the fact that jobs with night shifts may put you around substances that cause cancer. But seriously, I bet just about every person who works a night shift smokes cigarettes, drinks, etc. Its not the job, its the people. Its statistics I guarantee if you ask some guy that you know who works a night shift if they were asked to participate in this study they'd say no, thus statistics are BULL SHIT.


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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:57 PM

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QUOTE (lawlerer @ Mar 16 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my opinion, stupid ass statistics like this dont take into account the type of people who work night shifts, or the fact that jobs with night shifts may put you around substances that cause cancer. But seriously, I bet just about every person who works a night shift smokes cigarettes, drinks, etc. Its not the job, its the people. Its statistics I guarantee if you ask some guy that you know who works a night shift if they were asked to participate in this study they'd say no, thus statistics are BULL SHIT.


yeh i was kind of thinking this
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 06:03 PM

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QUOTE (Verrückter @ Mar 16 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't you get it ?

EVERYTHING CAUSES CANCER !


Yeh, but it's got to at least be something physical lol!

In fact as I write that, I am reminded of a cherrished childhood memory:



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Posted 16 March 2009 - 06:26 PM

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QUOTE (lawlerer @ Mar 16 2009, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my opinion, stupid ass statistics like this dont take into account the type of people who work night shifts, or the fact that jobs with night shifts may put you around substances that cause cancer. But seriously, I bet just about every person who works a night shift smokes cigarettes, drinks, etc. Its not the job, its the people. Its statistics I guarantee if you ask some guy that you know who works a night shift if they were asked to participate in this study they'd say no, thus statistics are BULL SHIT.

why would they ask guys? guys don't have breasts

and the study took account of risk factors such as alcohol, so the results are accurate.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 03:57 AM

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QUOTE (confrico @ Mar 16 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why would they ask guys? guys don't have breasts

and the study took account of risk factors such as alcohol, so the results are accurate.


guys can get breast cancer
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:11 AM

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QUOTE (confrico @ Mar 17 2009, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why would they ask guys? guys don't have breasts


everyone has breasts m8


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Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:48 AM

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you're right. men who work night shifts get breast cancer.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 03:50 PM

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maybe they should consider the number of people who smoke cigarettes that work the night shift?

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 03:52 PM

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QUOTE (ViRuS52 @ Mar 16 2009, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://news.bbc.co.u...lth/1108590.stm
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thats still the dingo lol, anyway this is ridiculous, tho the things people pointed like cigs and stuff could be a factor

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 05:35 PM

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here's your answer

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The hormone melatonin, which can suppress tumor development, is normally produced at night.

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Scientists believe having lower melatonin levels can raise the risk of developing cancer. Light shuts down melatonin production, so people working in artificial light at night may have lower melatonin levels.


melatonin is produced in the dark. so if you work nightshift, or stay up real late and then wake up late in the morning, like i do, take your melatonin supplements

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 04:44 AM

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Yeah this whole "STATISTICS ARE BULLSHIT" bandwagon that everyone is on these days pisses me off. You know there are studies out there that are done properly and for a good reason. Because you read an article that quotes a statistic doesn't mean you read the hypothesis/experiments/results/conclusions of the study taken, so in reality, you don't know shit. For all you know this could have been the most reliable study undertaken in the history of man kind with all variables unbiasedly controlled and accounted for.

I'm not saying that the statistics are accurate, I'm just saying that absolutely none of you know shit so stop dissing studies.

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Anyways on topic, everything causes cancer, a lack of melanin could be it, but that would mean countries like England would have a higher breast cancer rate than say Australia ect.


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QUOTE (Verrückter @ Mar 16 2009, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EVERYTHING CAUSES CANCER !


Including breathing.

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QUOTE (lawlerer @ Mar 16 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my opinion, stupid ass statistics like this dont take into account the type of people who work night shifts, or the fact that jobs with night shifts may put you around substances that cause cancer. But seriously, I bet just about every person who works a night shift smokes cigarettes, drinks, etc. Its not the job, its the people. Its statistics I guarantee if you ask some guy that you know who works a night shift if they were asked to participate in this study they'd say no, thus statistics are BULL SHIT.

Usually scientific studies that publish data do have controls, and do look for other explanations for the found trends. Quite honestly what you said was very stupid, because you mention your opinion about something that can easily be answered yes or no, and you didn't take into account that perhaps people before your in a field of empirical data and controlled research wouldn't have thought to find other causes before reaching a conclusion.

QUOTE (Rob` @ Mar 17 2009, 03:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
guys can get breast cancer

But men are far less likely to get it, and many conditions favor certain genders, so gender studies are more helpful when predicting risk to certain people. Also they are thinking it is an problem within the endocrine system, which act differently between men and women.

QUOTE (Dohregard @ Mar 19 2009, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
maybe they should consider the number of people who smoke cigarettes that work the night shift?

Because breast cancer is caused by smoking?
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 10:54 PM

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MCClammer is right, men are much more prone to Testicular cancer then females.

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I don't know whether this is true or not. In fact, I have no way of knowing and as a rule put no trust in most surveys, particularly those done by the medical sector. They give some seriously dangerous advice and present it as fact.

However, I do really believe there are a lot of dangers and health-risks that arise from a lack of sunlight.
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