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IVF is basically the fertilisation of the egg outside of the womb, eggs and sperm are retrieved from the parents-to-be and the sperm is inserted directly into the egg.

It is common for up to five separate eggs to be used as the success rate is quite low. The fertilised eggs are then inserted into the womb in the hope that one of them will attach itself to the womb lining and begin the miracle that is mass cell reproduction.

Pills are usually given to the mother to increase her wombs 'acceptance' of the egg and to generally ready her body for IVF.

That's the basic gist but the link below describes it in detail if anyone is interested, although i have a feeling this may spark a new topic.

IVF info

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QUOTE (techno-ninja @ Dec 17 2008, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IVF is basically the fertilisation of the egg outside of the womb, eggs and sperm are retrieved from the parents-to-be and the sperm is inserted directly into the egg.

It is common for up to five separate eggs to be used as the success rate is quite low. The fertilised eggs are then inserted into the womb in the hope that one of them will attach itself to the womb lining and begin the miracle that is mass cell reproduction.

Pills are usually given to the mother to increase her wombs 'acceptance' of the egg and to generally ready her body for IVF.

That's the basic gist but the link below describes it in detail if anyone is interested, although i have a feeling this may spark a new topic.

IVF info



huh....

That seems like a really touchy subject...

I suppose at first thought I would be against it, just because most people in those situations end up with more babies than they bargained for, but then again the only cases I've ever heard about that happening are those. I'm sure it works as intended with other people, but they just keep it quiet.

Maybe they should adopt if they can't have children?

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QUOTE (Dohregard @ Dec 17 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
huh....

That seems like a really touchy subject...

I suppose at first thought I would be against it, just because most people in those situations end up with more babies than they bargained for, but then again the only cases I've ever heard about that happening are those. I'm sure it works as intended with other people, but they just keep it quiet.

Maybe they should adopt if they can't have children?

Haha, story time, children.

My mum couldn't get pregnant normally, since she had endometriosis - Endometriosis (from endo, "inside", and metra, "womb") is a common medical condition in women that is characterized by growth beyond or outside the uterus of tissue resembling endometrium, the tissue that normally lines the uterus. And that was pushing on something and wouldn't allow her to get pregnant.

So FINALLY they went and did IVF, her and my dad, because they really wanted kids, and it worked. But instead of one baby they ended up with quadruplets. And just think, without that, you all wouldn't have the joy of knowing me ; D

So I can't say I'm against it, because I'm not. I think if you can give the experience of having your own child to a couple who might not be able to do it otherwise, then go for it. They're probably going to much better parents than someone who had a baby normally/by accident.

I don't quite see why having more than one child would make you against it. So the woman has multiples - big deal? sure, its a lot of work, but its not all bad : D

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I'm all for IVF, when it used in the normal parameters of nature, if that makes sense :/

I mean that when used on women of child bearing age (16-40/45) it is a really positive choice. The parents obviously really want to have children as they are willing to go through such stressful measures- and who better to have children than people who really want them?

When used on women that have left their child bearing years behind them, i think that is when it becomes a little iffy. I don't think that it is fair for an elderly woman to be having children when she's pretty much guaranteed to die before the child reaches adulthood.

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QUOTE (lisa! @ Dec 17 2008, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't quite see why having more than one child would make you against it. So the woman has multiples - big deal? sure, its a lot of work, but its not all bad : D



Because in general, most people when trying to have a child are expecting, financially and mentally, to have a child.

I've never known anyone (until now) who has gone through the procedure, so all I can think of is the people you see on the TV with 8 children at once and all that. It just seems like there should be more of a precaution before being used, though there could very well be these measures in place already.


So I don't really have a valid argument for this, just a perception of people not knowing what they are getting into, in general.


If people want to do it, more power to them.



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quick question, when they say "test tube baby" are they referring to kids born of IVF?

I want to see a baby conceived and grow in a test tube.. that would be cool.
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QUOTE (Jimmy Rabbitte @ Dec 18 2008, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
quick question, when they say "test tube baby" are they referring to kids born of IVF?

I want to see a baby conceived and grow in a test tube.. that would be cool.

how are you supposed to change a baby that is an inch long?
it wouldnt work
i have nothing against IVF, if a woman can't get pregnant normally, then its fine.
however, i do have a problem with people who purposely munch fertility pills like mushrooms just so they can have 4+ kids at once, and half of them end up dying.
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I guess I can't see what there is to debate here... from what I read there are no cells or living things being killed or experimented on

I doubt we have many hard line fundamentalists or even that many "homeschool style" christians to argue with on this forum.
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QUOTE (some dude @ Dec 18 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how are you supposed to change a baby that is an inch long?
it wouldnt work

huh?
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Doesn't affect me so I don't really care how a couple wants to have their kids. But I do think they should consider adoption before doing this. There are so many kids that need adoption. Then again I can see how a couple would want a child that's like their own (half dad's genes and half mom's genes). So this would be the next best thing.
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QUOTE (exterminator321 @ Dec 21 2008, 02:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doesn't affect me so I don't really care how a couple wants to have their kids. But I do think they should consider adoption before doing this. There are so many kids that need adoption. Then again I can see how a couple would want a child that's like their own (half dad's genes and half mom's genes). So this would be the next best thing.



I completely agree with you on this one- In the future i hope to foster children or even adopt, this is regardless of whether i have my own children or not, some people don't like the idea of raising someone elses children rather than have their own




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