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[The Renolution]

Hmmmm, good post. I agree a lot with what you said there.

The biggest problem with this sorta thing (as with a lot of life), is that it’s run by people with money, with little but money in mind. They have a narrow view of their target, and refuse to look outside it. They have no concept of "nice compromise" or "good in-between".

Their game plan at the moment is to expose people to E-games. They take the newest, dumbest games, so that someone flicking through will stop and look at the pretty 'splosions for a bit. But is this really the best course of action? What if, for example, they put C&C 3 in? It’s a new game that looks good, but would attract some gamers to watch it as well (nice compromise). And shouldn’t gamers be at least PART of their target audience?

It comes back to the fact though that they are broadcasting on Pay-TV. And Rich gamers, while not rare, are the minority (Hell, just keeping my computer up-to-date rarely leaves me with any money). I’m not sure if the rest of the world has their equivalent of SBS in Australia. It Pretty much the channel that shows the weirdest and wonderful things from all over the world. And it’s free-to-air. I mean, if I was flicking through my TV-guide and saw ANY gaming telecast listed, id be jumping for joy. However to keep me watching, they'd need to be Televising good games. So then their target audience would change, and they might be forced to list some more in depth games.

So, fact of the matter is, until e-games telecasts get some free air-time, the people running the show are gonna have to stick to the games that appeal to the "I have teh cables, and use it to watch football!" audience.

Anyway, here is my chart of "Will CGS Use It?"
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Yep, sums up it up quite nicely

[Th0zA]

Agreed with the entire post, right now to console fps's.

The problem with the north american e-sports scene is that, as said earlier, they have a very narrow view of gaming. This is why they put games like Forza as an e-sport. They think people play video games for flashy graphics and cool explosions...why wouldn't I just watch a movie? In my opinion, until the north american view of gaming changes, the north american e-sports won't be changing.

[Matic D. Oof]

I swear, if Soul Calibur IV becomes a televised E-Sport I guarantee you guys 99.9% that I'll be on there on TV. I've been training and traveling accross the country (and soon over seas) for Soul Calibur since it's release in 1999. Just so that I could achieve my dream of one day winning a major televised professional Soul Calibur tournament. And I can feel it. Soul Calibur IV is my time to shine!

Games like DOA are in major leagues like the World Cyber Games not because of how technical they are, but because of the POPULARITY! And Soul Calibur IV is not only a very pretty game with big titties (see: Ivy & Taki) like DOA, but it will have Yoda and Darth Vader.

Now I don't really care much about those two characters, and I know that they are just a gimmick, but bringing in a fan base to MY game as huge as STAR WARS, is a very exciting thing for me. Remember what Link did for Soul Calibur II on the gamecube? Think what Yoda and Vader will do for SoulCalibur IV.

Soul Calibur IV will become a very popular fighter, and it will be in the World Cyber Games. I can just feel it!!!!

It will likely also be at EVO2K8, so I'll be there as well. I was actually supposed to go to EVO2K4 when they had SoulCalibur II but I didn't have enough money at the time.. I missed the chance to see Justin Wong Vs Daigo live!!

[Triptych]

Man, I experienced FPS on console first, but I prefer it a lot more on PC. Also, I personally hate MLG. Using glitches to get kills?

[Utttand4]

I thought the CPL was like, dead?

Its not official yet but you can be sure its in its last days.


Also, for anyone following the CPL's last ditch attempt: CPL Halo 3 Prize Problems

That's right, fuck CGS. fuck them

What he said.


Kinda on topic:
GGL annouces Worldwide gaming tournament for 2008 Summer Olympics

All of us at GGL are pleased to announce that GGL has been appointed the official partner and co-producer for making videogames an official “Welcome Event” of the 2008 Summer Olympic Games.

Gamers at all skill levels will be able to compete for the opportunity to represent their country in a global tournament hosted by GGL. The tournament will culminate with a Grand Finals event held in Shanghai.

GGL Chairman Ted Owen called the Digital Games “the ultimate elevation of gaming and the culture of gaming to the world stage.”

[AceInTheHole]

While I love Halo 3 to death, I would agree with you that it doesn't make for much of a competitive game like CS or America's Army or Quake 3. And what is COD4 doing in a competitive gaming league? I'm not even gonna go into my thoughts on how little skill that game involves.

While I can't really get into RTS's anymore, I still agree there should be more of them in competitive gaming. And if they switch out DOA4 for Virtua Fighter 5, then they might have a considerable lineup.

[TheCh*ckenFace]

I'm gonna be straight here as there is nothing else to say....

I feel like the words were coming out of my mouth.
I've had this discussion countless times to vent some frustration. Your mentions of Starcraft and CS 1.6 fall in exactly with my perspective.

Completely relevant and excellent post.

[Anth0ny]

Brawl or Melee will. There's a lot of concern floating around that Brawl will not be viable competitively (random tripping when you dash, no L-cancel, no wave dash) but it did just come out, and only in Japan. As more advanced techiniques are found it will become more interesting. Melee, however, is very well established, so I think MLG might do one more year of the older game.

Brawl is only a little over 2 weeks old. In Japan. Most of Melee's advance techniques were discovered years after release. No need to worry, Brawl will become competitive in time.

I'm pretty sure that MLG dropped Melee because of "loss of popularity." Of course, this is bullshit, as 2007 was arguably the best year ever for competitive Smash. EVO picked it up soon after MLG dropped it. Honestly, the only reason I want MLG to pick it up is because they come to Toronto.

[a Teddy Bear]

GOM TV was successful!
to watch the vods go here: http://gsi.gomtv.com/vod/
EVERYONE check it out, Gretech's continued support is based on the viewership!

[Plasmic Fury]

I can respect your viewpoint on DOA4, but I loved DOA4, I honestly played it for a year straight at least 1-2 hrs a day. It defiantly takes skill. Its not a button mash frenzy. You have to anticpate your enemy with quick counters or throws. Its defiantly competetive and fun IMO.

[Shadowstar]

Sorry but watching e-games makes me incredibly bored. I rather play a game, then watch someone play it.

[wolf_1]

I can respect your viewpoint on DOA4, but I loved DOA4, I honestly played it for a year straight at least 1-2 hrs a day. It defiantly takes skill. Its not a button mash frenzy. You have to anticpate your enemy with quick counters or throws. Its defiantly competetive and fun IMO.

feel free to read perfectlegend's testimony on DOA4: "Yes I really really hate DOA4."

[Gillz]

feel free to read perfectlegend's testimony on DOA4: "Yes I really really hate DOA4."

Not surprised at all.

My first time playing DOA4, I was button mashing 90% of the time, and managed to beat people who have been playing that game for a year.

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[p_low32148]

I love watching replays of zh and I also used to love watching CAL M matches for CoD2 because of the team work and precision that took place to come out on top I myself am not "the top dog" in gaming or "the cats meow" if you will but I think of myself as an alright gamer and I strive to be better.I don't usually watch broadcast gaming on tv because like you said there typically 360 or something like CSS which disapoints me but I am looking forward to starcraft from Asia brought to us in English they unconciously do things that we would have to think about.Building a whole entire zerg army is like second nature to them so that is something I will definitely be watching

[Tree_]

feel free to read perfectlegend's testimony on DOA4: "Yes I really really hate DOA4."

Figures, I dont see how anybody who actually takes any pride in the genre could like DoA4 over other fighting games out there.

[captcollins]

Strongly dissagree with what you said about MLG, im a classic old school gamer to and its everything i've ever dreamed of. I know some of those pro players and you cant talk down to mlg unless you have went to atleast one event. Its incredible.

[Plasmic Fury]

feel free to read perfectlegend's testimony on DOA4: "Yes I really really hate DOA4."

lol damn I loved DOA4, but probably because it was the only fighting game at the time that had online..

[Fritobag]

epic post Jarett!

GOM TV was successful!
to watch the vods go here: http://gsi.gomtv.com/vod/
EVERYONE check it out, Gretech's continued support is based on the viewership!

qft, and yes this is a big deal ^^

[captcollins]

Also, mlg probably has the most dedicated gamers alive. Espeically in the halo 3 category. The amount str8 rippon and final boss practice is really amazing, i couldnt do it if i tried.

[bloodvayne]

Let me be blunt here - I think console shooters suck balls. Again, a personal preference, sure, but one that I happen to share with every human being I've ever met that first experienced FPS on a PC.

I think I may have just lost a tiny bit of respect for you.
Just a tiny bit, but still.