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okay, my computer died on me and im on a pentium III at ~790MHz and 510mb of RAM and some crappy card that has a hard time playing flash games.

I've been running around on newegg and I wanna try and get something in the 8-900$ range so would this be good for CoD4, source games, and so on?

|computer case| ~ antec 900

|HDD| samsung 320gb @ 7200rpm

|gfx card| eVGA 8600GT 256mb GDDR3 128-bit (gonna use the step-up program for an 8800gt when i getz the money)

|PSU| rosewill 750w

|RAM| G.SKILL (2 x 1GB) DDR2 SDRAM 800 x2 (4GB total)

|mobo| EVGA NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

|CPU| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield @ 2.4GHz

now the question i ask you is..
1. Is everything compatible?
2. is it good enuf for new games?
3. could I upgrade better without increasing price?
4. would it stay cool enuf or should I get a CPU cooler?

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You definetly don't need a 750Watt PSU. A 500 should do fine. One of the local hardware guys will be around to recomend a few soon, I'm sure.
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well the thing is, I'm looking forward to upgrade continuously and maybe go into like dual SLI cards and so on.
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QUOTE (Apoc1337 @ Feb 10 2008, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well the thing is, I'm looking forward to upgrade continuously and maybe go into like dual SLI cards and so on.

If you aren't going to SLi/Crossfire when you buy the PC new, it probably won't be worth it. You'd get better performance selling your current card then buying a newer gen card for the same or less money. And even still, I doubt you would need 750 watt.
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Even for SLI, 750 watts would be too much. 600-700W for SLI should do it. Don't get 4 gb of RAM. 2 gb is really all you need. Not sure about the motherboard. Looks okay, ask someone else about it. Is the HDD SATA? If it is, make sure you get the right SATA RAID/AHCI drivers to install XP. By dropping the PSU to something around 600W and the RAM to 2GB at 800 mhz, you might be able to afford a 8800gt/ HD 3870. If you can, go for the 8800gt/ HD 3870. I really don't think a 8600GT is really worth it.

Edit: To answer your questions:

Yes, everything is compatible with each other.

It's good enough for most games at reasonable settings.

I don't really get your third question. Sure you can upgrade it. It's a PC. But buying the newer parts will cost you extra.

You really don't need an extra CPU cooler unless you want to do some serious over clocking. The retail Q6600 comes with a heatsink and fan.

Btw, you should make sure that the PSU you buy comes with two 6 pin PCI-E connectors if you want to SLI.

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What everyone says is true, you dont need a 750W PSU for SLi if they arent huge cards. anything from the 8600/9600 line will run in a 500W-600W range. With that said, if your going SLI dont get an outdated board. You'd be better off getting a 750i, they just came out and they run beautifully. They have 2 PCI-E 2.0 Slots for SLI. The only thing different from 780i's and 750i's is the chipset and the amoutn of slots. I doubt anyone here would be dumb enough to go tri-sli. so a 750i should do you just fine. BTW, no one uses al 4GB's of RAM. Well most people dont so stick with 2GB. If your not overclocking you can run the stock cooler, but if your getting to oc that Q6600, your going to need an HSF.

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QUOTE (Apoc1337 @ Feb 10 2008, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
|computer case| ~ antec 900

|HDD| samsung 320gb @ 7200rpm

|gfx card| eVGA 8600GT 256mb GDDR3 128-bit (gonna use the step-up program for an 8800gt when i getz the money)

|PSU| rosewill 750w

|RAM| G.SKILL (2 x 1GB) DDR2 SDRAM 800 x2 (4GB total)

|mobo| EVGA NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

|CPU| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield @ 2.4GHz

Thanks!



Lower the PSU to 500W or 600W, remove 2 gigs of ram, and => get an 8800GT or HD3870.

SLi or CF down the road is NOT worth it, because in a few months there will be a card cheaper than two 8800GTs or 3870's that does the same/better performance. This is just the (sad?) truth.

Besides, 8600GT is not what you want for COD4 ;p at least an 8600 GTS, but seriously just chop off the extra $$ and put it into gfx

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QUOTE (Tuffins @ Feb 10 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lower the PSU to 500W or 600W, remove 2 gigs of ram, and => get an 8800GT or HD3870.

SLi or CF down the road is NOT worth it, because in a few months there will be a card cheaper than two 8800GTs or 3870's that does the same/better performance. This is just the (sad?) truth.

Besides, 8600GT is not what you want for COD4 ;p at least an 8600 GTS, but seriously just chop off the extra $$ and put it into gfx


thanks you guys have been a great help, I'll move down the PSU to like 650w but I'm not gonna change the RAM because those 4GB is only like 90$. and by question 3 i mean, are their any better cards for about that price?

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change the PSU to something like a OCZ gameXstream 600W or a zalman ZM600-HP if you like a modular unit
anyways you would probs be better choppin the CPU to an e8400 then spend the extra on a thermalright ultra 120 extreme heatsink and get a killer overclock going on it.
then as pointed out you want to sink more money into the graphics, 8800GS minimum, 8800GT recomend.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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http://www.newegg.co...mp;Tpk=P35-DS3L
p35-ds3l

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127329
8800GT 512mb

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115029
e6750 (e8400 is out of stock, q6600 is out of budget)

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231098
2gig G.Skill kit

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129021
Antec Nine Hundred

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827118002
Optical Drive

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822144701
Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817103940
PSu

Comes in for about 860, want to save a bit more go for a less expensive case. Want to spend more go back to the q6600 and a nice PSU. (Silencer 610 is pretty wicked)


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can't get an e8xxx series there instead of the e6750?
65nm dualcores are old skule

Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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ok so ive made some changes thanks to you guys and this is what ive gotten to:

Sony NEC Optiarc 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA ~ 29$

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ 110$

Western Digital Caviar SE 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ~ 100$

EVGA GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI ~ 110$

Rosewill 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V Power Supply ~ 70$

G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 ~ 47$ (buying 2 sets though so it'll be 93$)

EVGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard ~ 170$

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz Dual-Core ~ 190$

Total price ~ $872.91

would an extra 2GB of RAM on XP SP2 be that great of a difference? or should i just drop down to 2GB?
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No, 2 gigs of ram on XP SP2 or even Vista Ultimate won't make a difference when playing games. The only reason you'd need more is for studio graphics editing stuff.

Why still 8600GT? Get at least an 3850, although preferably 3870/8800GT

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QUOTE (Apoc1337 @ Feb 11 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok so ive made some changes thanks to you guys and this is what ive gotten to:

Sony NEC Optiarc 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA ~ 29$

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ 110$

Western Digital Caviar SE 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ~ 100$

EVGA GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI ~ 110$

Rosewill 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V Power Supply ~ 70$

G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 ~ 47$ (buying 2 sets though so it'll be 93$)

EVGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard ~ 170$

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz Dual-Core ~ 190$

Total price ~ $872.91

would an extra 2GB of RAM on XP SP2 be that great of a difference? or should i just drop down to 2GB?




Your not following any advice..thats basically what you first posted. 680i is about 100-150 USD, right? Why not, if your SLIing, go for a 750i? They are the same price, and the 750i is better. You only need 2GB of RAM for gaming, unles your doing movie/graphic editing. And get yourself a decent 3870, or 8800GT. Or wait for the 9000 line of Nvidia Cards.


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Don't go SLI unless you're doing it straight away, there'll be a better and new card out by the time you want to buy a second card, and that just won't be worth it.


QUOTE (Weiman @ Apr 5 2009, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is exactly what has been going on through the entire thread, and it's not the first time either.
You come to us for advice..you just spell out what you want to get, and then ask us if it is okay, and we have to explain why it isn't. That's the world upside down.. If you would just say 'hey guys, I have an X amount of money, what should I buy?' Then this would be over in 2-3 posts, not 2-3 pages.
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Every time someone goes against Weiman's sig I feel like they should be bludgeoned for a few minutes in the head to feel the headache I feel when I realize someone really IS that dense.

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QUOTE (Weiman @ Feb 11 2008, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't go SLI unless you're doing it straight away, there'll be a better and new card out by the time you want to buy a second card, and that just won't be worth it.



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QUOTE (Apoc1337 @ Feb 11 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok so ive made some changes thanks to you guys and this is what ive gotten to:

Sony NEC Optiarc 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA ~ 29$

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ 110$

Western Digital Caviar SE 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ~ 100$

EVGA GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI ~ 110$

Rosewill 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V Power Supply ~ 70$

G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 ~ 47$ (buying 2 sets though so it'll be 93$)

EVGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i LT SLI ATX Intel Motherboard ~ 170$

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz Dual-Core ~ 190$

Total price ~ $872.91

would an extra 2GB of RAM on XP SP2 be that great of a difference? or should i just drop down to 2GB?


less RAM more graphics (as already mentioned)

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SLI is only good when you get both at the same time and given that its on the 8800 series (or wait for the 9 series). I highly recommend getting the 8800GT rather than 2 8600s...
If you insist on SLI, don't get the 680LT SLI board unless you're getting it for a really cheap price from someone. Try to get the 750i
Processor... Well i'm not sure about the E series because i'm using extreme ones icon_razz.gif But from what i've read, the E8400 is an excellent processor
The RAM well 4gb is kinda useless unless you're running x64. But since its a bargain for getting 2 sets for $93, go ahead and just sell the other set icon_razz.gif
If you're getting the 4gb and plan to use it, i think you'll need a 700w PSU. (especially if you're running on SLI)
The case is good no questions asked
The rest are standard so basicly what you need to change:
Motherboard
Processor
Videocard




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if he's SLIing 8600 chips no point going for a 750i because the extra PCIe lanes won't do anything for such a shit slow card.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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QUOTE (7h3 n00b m4573r @ Feb 12 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if he's SLIing 8600 chips no point going for a 750i because the extra PCIe lanes won't do anything for such a shit slow card.


Point taken icon_biggrin.gif haha

Never tried an 8600 though icon_razz.gif And the only brand of nforce 750 i've seen is only asus






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