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QUOTE (Silint Ninjya @ Sep 25 2007, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and it can be the result of the DVD quality itself, the TV quality, the settings on the TV and the settings on the player (things like brightness can wash out color very easily). and when the player is able to play blu-ray or hd-dvd, then i think it doesnt really matter at all in the end.

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Same settings on the tv for both the computer and ps2. If I would optimize the settings for both the computer and the ps2 they could look more alike or the difference could be even bigger. The photos looks like total shit my tv is no good taking photos on lol. Both the ps2 and computer looks alot better on the tv then on the photos.
I have seen 2 different dvd players on the same tv in a store and there was difference and when we I saw some movies at a friends house he switched from the DVD in their living room to the one in his roo and there was a difference. I also heard 2 different cd players with the same speakers and one of them had better audio then the other.
When I buy a ps3 and a projector I can do a bigger test with more dvd players and xbox 360, ps3 and ps2.

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QUOTE (eedok @ Sep 25 2007, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If this is true, and the online is good, this can push the PS3 over the 360 for quality of controls alone. Hope all the other shooters on the console take notice.

except it'll ruin the thing that makes consoles special. Why not just play it on a PC if ur gonna run linux and play with a K/B and mouse.

Also, the advantage of keyboard and mouse is purely personal.
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the way i see it is that as long as the playing ground is even (both are using controllers or both are using mouse and keyboard) then none of this really matters. its a fair fight, the better player wins.

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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Sep 25 2007, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
except it'll ruin the thing that makes consoles special. Why not just play it on a PC if ur gonna run linux and play with a K/B and mouse.

Also, the advantage of keyboard and mouse is purely personal.


But I would love to have the option I admit......I dont want to dish out more money on upgrading my PC when I can play the game on my xbox360 with the great PC controls.

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QUOTE (Silint Ninjya @ Sep 25 2007, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the way i see it is that as long as the playing ground is even (both are using controllers or both are using mouse and keyboard) then none of this really matters. its a fair fight, the better player wins.

This is true, but I'm just saying that someone who's really good with a controller can be just as good as someone who's good with a keyboard, they're just different control schemes. Neither is better or worse. They both use two movement/location inputs, one just uses a location>location input, whereas the other translates location into velocity (right analogue vs. mouse).
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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Sep 25 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
except it'll ruin the thing that makes consoles special. Why not just play it on a PC if ur gonna run linux and play with a K/B and mouse.

Also, the advantage of keyboard and mouse is purely personal.

if by special you mean Ralph Wiggim(2:30) special I can agree with you here, but if you consider being forced to use a specific controller what makes consoles special, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call you crazy.

Configurable controls = a good thing

Also free cross platform online gaming, *thumbs up*

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You'd be surprised guys. From my leap from Console to PC FPS Ive never found any great advantage in the mouse and Keyboard setp up over the controllers. Maybe slightly better, but that could just be my preference.

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QUOTE (eedok @ Sep 25 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if by special you mean Ralph Wiggim(2:30) special I can agree with you here, but if you consider being forced to use a specific controller what makes consoles special, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call you crazy.

Configurable controls = a good thing

dude... configurable controls are ok. Having completely different controls schemes are not. A huge selling point of consoles is they are all uniform. I buy a console, I know it will perform like this other guy's console. I know that he has no hardware advantage over me. If I lose to him, I lose. My system didn't lose, I lost. Likewise, if I win, I win.
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mouse keyboard controls have better aiming ability, but lesser movement ability and they dont "feel" as good when shooting. like with a console. i like pulling the "trigger."

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the wii should give you the best "feel" then, as not only are you pulling the trigger, you are also pointing at what you want to shoot at

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aye, and i have a wii. however, i dont like the way they have done the controls. i dont like the "go to the edge of the screen to turn" idea. i mean, it works ok in metroid prime, but even then it is only "ok."

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I haven't played MP3 yet, but I always though the controls for a wii fps should go:
nunchuck move forward/backward strafe left/right
C - rotate left
Z - rotate right
A - Jump
B - Shoot
-/+ - change weapons
1 - Crouch(toggle)
2 - Special action

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QUOTE (eedok @ Sep 26 2007, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't played MP3 yet, but I always though the controls for a wii fps should go:
nunchuck move forward/backward strafe left/right
C - rotate left
Z - rotate right
A - Jump
B - Shoot
-/+ - change weapons
1 - Crouch(toggle)
2 - Special action


... im presuming you use the motion sensor for the wiimote to control the curser around and look up and down?

i donno, sounds too complicated. but thats just my opinion.

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yea, and forgot make a stabbing motion to stab, nunchuk motion could be throw grenade.

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QUOTE (eedok @ Sep 26 2007, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea, and forgot make a stabbing motion to stab, nunchuk motion could be throw grenade.

I wish they would have used an analogue on the wiimote itself instead of the D-pad. Then you could have the nunchuc like you said, and use the now right analogue for turning right/left/up/down and use the wiimote itself to aim at things on the screen. That way you can SUPER up the sensitivity on the analogue and not lose the accuracy because you use the analogue for a way general aim, and the wiimote for fine tuning. if that made sense o.O.

Haven't used a wii enough to say for the rest of the controls, but that would be movement for my theory.
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you have to realize that by summer of 2008 sony will have launched some of its exclusives and the world will stare in disbelief. then im sure the hatred will be stepped up a notch.

most titles that have gone multiplat are actually weaker titles except for gta. i mean acecombat5 didnt outdo 4, and correct me if im wrong but ive heard 6 was a dud. think youll start to noticing that patern, if a title is worth fighting for sony will keep it. lair and assassins creed were already on my skip list.

as for hardware issues, man im not even going to rub it in. i have nothing against xb owners, im only defending atks on sony here.

sony has learned a few things with its failed attempts at pc mmo's, chances are theres a few special projects completely under the radar, im willing to wait and see.
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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Sep 26 2007, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish they would have used an analogue on the wiimote itself instead of the D-pad. Then you could have the nunchuc like you said, and use the now right analogue for turning right/left/up/down and use the wiimote itself to aim at things on the screen. That way you can SUPER up the sensitivity on the analogue and not lose the accuracy because you use the analogue for a way general aim, and the wiimote for fine tuning. if that made sense o.O.

Haven't used a wii enough to say for the rest of the controls, but that would be movement for my theory.


Why would the world stare in awe. The PS3 isnt' even sporting better graphics than the 360. Most of gamespots PS3/360 reviews have given the nod in graphics to the X-Box versions.

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QUOTE (airsniper @ Sep 28 2007, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you have to realize that by summer of 2008 sony will have launched some of its exclusives and the world will stare in disbelief. then im sure the hatred will be stepped up a notch.

most titles that have gone multiplat are actually weaker titles except for gta. i mean acecombat5 didnt outdo 4, and correct me if im wrong but ive heard 6 was a dud. think youll start to noticing that patern, if a title is worth fighting for sony will keep it. lair and assassins creed were already on my skip list.

as for hardware issues, man im not even going to rub it in. i have nothing against xb owners, im only defending atks on sony here.

sony has learned a few things with its failed attempts at pc mmo's, chances are theres a few special projects completely under the radar, im willing to wait and see.

failed attempts at PC MMO's? Last I remember Everquest was hugely successful, last I recall it was the biggest MMO until WoW hit.

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you have to realize that by summer of 2008 sony will have launched some of its exclusives and the world will stare in disbelief. then im sure the hatred will be stepped up a notch.

FF13 (which hasnt even been shown in the last year and probably isnt till 09), MGS4(which i personally dont care for), warhawk (which you might love, but it really isnt doing THAT amazing in sales), and what other major exclusives are you talking about? people are already seeing how the xbox has more major exclusive titles like halo, forza, gears of war, too human, alan wake, and others.

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backtrack->mouse is newb for fps. point to shoot? far too easy. keyboard to move? if youve never been active and only get your excercise online - perhaps. 2h controller is the best rep of hand-eye regarding movement and handling of weaps, bar none. only light guns and steering wheel/pedals can suppliment. if anything - get more controllers to these pc newbs, i mean mouse seems ok for rts, but rly who cares about rts.

back to brandizm->everquest was ugly and gameplay had me skipping it, vanguard was more what i was speaking on and imo shouldnt have even seen light, and one other that escapes memory. all new projects are locked up tight, and im actually glad to see delays, perfection is the goal and im with that.

an xb title thats mildly unique hits the shelf, and 5 others like it follow shortly after, thus xb has many games, but not many KEEPERS. most are rentals at best, more likely resales if you ask me. give me fewer, better games, im jaded as is - ill be happy thx.
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