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QUOTE (Hrugnir @ Mar 1 2007, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope, in fact it might be good for those people. It's a complicated issue, which is the exact reason why I don't think banning porn and whatever will change anything for the better. It's an effect of the modern view of sexuality as a whole, which has been pushed by porn.

A lot of fundies and feminists etc who see the same problems, try to solve these problems with simple solutions, and I think they would all fail. I recognize the problems, and I have no idea how we would ever solve them, except from person to person.

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QUOTE (ya_ba @ Mar 2 2007, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So you think that if we don't allow the use porn - rape will disappear?

It would most likely cause more rape IMHO. But the thing about all this is, that i have the philosophy that porn in itself is not bad, its the culture and some the the genres that lay with it. I mean hostely watching a man and a women have sex, or watching a girl do a strip tease is not bad, as Hrugnir said, It is the treatment they get, The rape, the abuse and the nurse dress up uber rape. I mean watching some women getting 3 penis's on her face in a school class room is not the best thing for children to watch. The morality and basis of porn in itself is not the problem. It is th porn culture that lies round it. I personaly think that pron should not be ban but it is a very serious issue.
www.no-porn.com has some great views on the issue and i recommend it to anyone that is actually "addicted" to porn.
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QUOTE (Skanky Yoda @ Mar 1 2007, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would most likely cause more rape IMHO. But the thing about all this is, that i have the philosophy that porn in itself is not bad, its the culture and some the the genres that lay with it. I mean hostely watching a man and a women have sex, or watching a girl do a strip tease is not bad, as Hrugnir said, It is the treatment they get, The rape, the abuse and the nurse dress up uber rape. I mean watching some women getting 3 penis's on her face in a school class room is not the best thing for children to watch. The morality and basis of porn in itself is not the problem. It is th porn culture that lies round it. I personaly think that pron should not be ban but it is a very serious issue.
www.no-porn.com has some great views on the issue and i recommend it to anyone that is actually "addicted" to porn.

Well, in a way - yeah.
Since they would need to release their sexual frustration somehow, right?
But look at me - I don't need it, do I look like a rapist to you?
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QUOTE (ya_ba @ Mar 2 2007, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, in a way - yeah.
Since they would need to release their sexual frustration somehow, right?
But look at me - I don't need it, do I look like a rapist to you?
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Yeah but your not a rapist so you will never understand why they do it. With the use of porn it provides a release of sexual tensions.
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QUOTE (Skanky Yoda @ Mar 1 2007, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but your not a rapist so you will never understand why they do it. With the use of porn it provides a release of sexual tensions.

Yeah, but what exactly differs me from a rapist? The fact tat I don't do the act of raping.
They are normal people - which is even scarier, at times, since it could be anyone.

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QUOTE (ya_ba @ Mar 2 2007, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but what exactly differs me from a rapist? The fact tat I don't do the act of raping.
They are normal people - which is even scarier, at times, since it could be anyone.

It is very likely that something has happened to them to make them do this, sure it could be anyone, but a sierlrapist nearly always has a bad history of child abuse to them and other things making their life worse....
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QUOTE (Skanky Yoda @ Mar 1 2007, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but your not a rapist so you will never understand why they do it. With the use of porn it provides a release of sexual tensions.

I don't think porn provides a release of sexual tensions. Maybe in the short run, but in the long run it hightens the sexual tensions and makes them more frequent. In short, porn is addictive. People with addictive personalities (like me) should avoid it like the plague. Porn purveyors know this and specifically target kids in thier teens (much like the tobacco industry) so they will grow up addicts and inject thier $ into the industry for life.

Porn doesn't encourage healthy relationships. I think kids who grow up on porn have a wierd outlook on life. When they find out that life isn't a big porno movie (ie. people don't just meet each other and have spontaneous sex and girls don't necasserily like to be splooged in the face), many of these kids turn to rape/abuse and other activities to 'feed the need.' Porn is also used by predators to lure kids.

I agree that sex education is lacking but porn isn't the answer. In fact schools aren't so much the answer, either. Parents are the ones that need to tell thier kids about sex. Granted past generations haven't been so good at it but I think we're getting better.

Did I mention I'm against porn? I am.

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But parents of today DON'T tell their children about sex/love because they think that TV has taught their kids all they need to know..

So soft porn is not all bad. But there has to be some way to limit the flow of porn via the internet to kids <18. There has to be more than checking a box and saying"Yes, I am 18 or older"...

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Yeah there was a thread about this awhile ago called "pr0n ftw or ftl?" I may just dig it up if I have time.

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IMO, Anyone who thinks porn should be banned Is basically saying to me, "HEY EVERYONE, I THINK RAPING PEOPLE IS COOL AND SHOULD HAPPEN A LOT MORE! icon_biggrin.gif" But again, thats just MO. I honestly encourage people to watch porn and masturbate to it, so they don't go out and rape people. But yeah, I think porn = ftw.
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A lot of people use porn to watch with their loved ones to "get them in the mood". I guess porn is kind of like drinking.
If you drink by yourself, you're an alcoholic. If you watch porn with another girl, you're probably drunk already it's okay!
Like Syntra said, it releases sexual tension as well, so less rapes etc.
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QUOTE (Syntra @ Mar 2 2007, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IMO, Anyone who thinks porn should be banned Is basically saying to me, "HEY EVERYONE, I THINK RAPING PEOPLE IS COOL AND SHOULD HAPPEN A LOT MORE! icon_biggrin.gif" But again, thats just MO. I honestly encourage people to watch porn and masturbate to it, so they don't go out and rape people. But yeah, I think porn = ftw.


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I'm going to take it you didn't read any of the replies in this topic. Am I correct?

And I think it's sad that people watch porn with their partners, but that's just me. I wouldn't want to be excited by some random's woman's body just to "make the sex" better. That's a pretty egocentric way of looking at sex in general, when it's just about the individual's pleasure.

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QUOTE (Syntra @ Mar 1 2007, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IMO, Anyone who thinks porn should be banned Is basically saying to me, "HEY EVERYONE, I THINK RAPING PEOPLE IS COOL AND SHOULD HAPPEN A LOT MORE! icon_biggrin.gif" But again, thats just MO. I honestly encourage people to watch porn and masturbate to it, so they don't go out and rape people. But yeah, I think porn = ftw.

Again, do I look like a rapist to you?!


QUOTE (Drok @ Mar 1 2007, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A lot of people use porn to watch with their loved ones to "get them in the mood". I guess porn is kind of like drinking.
If you drink by yourself, you're an alcoholic. If you watch porn with another girl, you're probably drunk already it's okay!
Like Syntra said, it releases sexual tension as well, so less rapes etc.

No, if you watch porn with a partner, you are just weird (imo). Does your girlfriend don't turn you on enough?
I'd be offended if my partner wanted to watch porn before having sex. Really.

QUOTE (Hrugnir @ Mar 2 2007, 05:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I'm going to take it you didn't read any of the replies in this topic. Am I correct?

And I think it's sad that people watch porn with their partners, but that's just me. I wouldn't want to be excited by some random's woman's body just to "make the sex" better. That's a pretty egocentric way of looking at sex in general, when it's just about the individual's pleasure.

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QUOTE (Wolf the Widowmaker @ Mar 1 2007, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But parents of today DON'T tell their children about sex/love because they think that TV has taught their kids all they need to know..

So soft porn is not all bad. But there has to be some way to limit the flow of porn via the internet to kids <18. There has to be more than checking a box and saying"Yes, I am 18 or older"...

There is more, it's called a 'parent.'

Parent: Jimmy, there are lots of sites on the internet that have pictures of naked women and people having sex. Don't look at these sites. They're not good for your mind/spirit and they'll make for screwed up relationships in the future. If you have questions about these things come talk to me, etc.. etc...

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One could argue that porn is a social survival mechanism for procreation, ensuring that people have constant urges and remember to have sex to keep the entire species alive.
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QUOTE (The B.I.V. @ Mar 2 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Parent: Jimmy, there are lots of sites on the internet that have pictures of naked women and people having sex. Don't look at these sites. They're not good for your mind/spirit and they'll make for screwed up relationships in the future. If you have questions about these things come talk to me, etc.. etc...

Jimmy (thinking): NAKED WIMMINZ! OH LAWDY -signs onto 4chan, searches teh_pr0n-

Letting kids know what it is, and only giving them one side of the argument, is basically provoking them to go and do it.

Why do you think we have such a drug problem? People say "Well drugs are bad! They'll all kill you!", and then when the kid finds out that you can smoke pot without dying, then what other drugs can you do that said parents/teachers lied about?

You see where I'm going here. I won't elaborate further.
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Last time I checked, you didn't have the right to tell me what to do?

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QUOTE (Sikotik @ Mar 2 2007, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jimmy (thinking): NAKED WIMMINZ! OH LAWDY -signs onto 4chan, searches teh_pr0n-

Letting kids know what it is, and only giving them one side of the argument, is basically provoking them to go and do it.

Why do you think we have such a drug problem? People say "Well drugs are bad! They'll all kill you!", and then when the kid finds out that you can smoke pot without dying, then what other drugs can you do that said parents/teachers lied about?

You see where I'm going here. I won't elaborate further.

Certainly, I agree. I'm not saying to give them one side of the story (I suppose my example kinda looks that way). Lay it out for them. Ultimately the choice is thiers but with good guidance from a parent I think the child can make a much better decision, rather than the parent never being involved at all and 'Jimmy's' school buddy saying:" Hey, let's go look at porn, Jimmy. It's totally awesome!"

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QUOTE (Fritobag @ Mar 2 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One could argue that porn is a social survival mechanism for procreation, ensuring that people have constant urges and remember to have sex to keep the entire species alive.

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OH MAN! How could I have forgotten having sex?!?!"

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QUOTE (ya_ba @ Mar 2 2007, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"To do list:
Make food
Go to work
Play C&C 3
Buy groceries
Have sex
Take out trash
Study
OH MAN! How could I have forgotten having sex?!?!"

I doubt that it'd happen.

Thats how MY mind works..
Well, minus the
Make food
Play C&C 3
Buy groceries
Take out trash
Study

So basically, go to work and have sex. xD
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Last time I checked, you didn't have the right to tell me what to do?




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