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[Pawnator]

Are we calling the confession video into question now?

[DethFanatic]

Because we're all stupid are we...

Because you all believe that Osama/Usama Bin Laden did the attacks,
Oh shit hes not even wanted for that by the FBI...
http://www.fbi.gov/w...terbinladen.htm

There reason is 'there isn't even evidence to pin 9/11 on Osama/Usama Bin Laden.

So... Who carried out the attacks... and why is the US after Osama/Usama Bin Laden if he never did the attacks.

Bin Laden is not on the FBI list.

Therefore, the U.S. did 9/11 and Bin Laden faked his responsibility for the attacks.

The logic is flawless.

It really doesnt make any sense, I dont see why you would say that the FBI arent after osama simply because there is something missing on a wanted page. Sorta like seeing things that arent there, but im happy to see any other evidence you can present, i keep an open mind and sort/sift through the information presented to me, unlike most people here who have very extreme left-right/black-white views.

It was known about and carried out by the US Government, Just like the De-Classified 180+ Staged Terrorist Attacks the US has done.
Like http://en.wikipedia....tion_Northwoods for example

Do the research.

Well as far as I can see yes, this plan was obviously written but I really highly doubt that it was actually acted out, simply because it was declassified, and i havent seen any evidence that the US government did act out operation northwoods.

[Danoli3]

Are we calling the confession video into question now?

Have you seen that video. It looks nothing like him.

I'll get you a picture of him from 2000 and compare with the video from 2001.



From the Confession Video The Usama Depicted here has Darker Skin, Fuller Cheeks and a Broader Nose than any other Video with Usama Bin Laden.

[raw_genesis]

are there actually people who still believe in all this 911 conspiracy shit?

I don't believe in the whole conspirace thing but there are still things I don't get like how some of the alleged hijackers are still alive and had nothing to do with it...

Also I don't think USA planned the attacks, but I also don't think Osama did either. They just needed someone to blame to try and raise the publics moral and to put a face to the injustice and Osama was happy to run with it bacause it made him a hero among the extreamist muslums.
It would not be the first time a terrorist has taken credit for another terrorists work.

[Danoli3]

Shankville Plane - Obvious Faked Event.

Plane 'Wing Scars" where in ground in 1994...
http://terraserver-u...&...Y=22177&W=2




Source:
http://www.trust-us....ank-eyeball.htm

Heres a video showing a more 3D view of the area... clearing showing the drainage scar in the ground from 1994..

http://au.youtube.co...feature=related

Just looks like a 'Bomb' has gone off in the middle.

And guess what... thats what most of all the people in the area said... "Sounded like a bomb went off"

@ the phone calls from the people on the plan... Back in 2001, American Airlines did not support In air mobile phones. So all the "Mobile Phone" conversations you have heard from the 'people' aboard the plane is faked. Media Hype.
Sources on Mobile Phones not working on Planes in 2001:
http://www.rense.com...al56/cellpp.htm

Only more recently has this service been available.

[confrico]

bin laden lives in a cave, and his friends all live in arabian sand castles. it's so frickin hot over there that their brains are all fried and they can't even muster up the intelligence to build brick houses. how are we supposed to believe that these durkas blew up the world trade center, that is, when there's plenty of smart, all-american, educated government men who are much better at it?
/sarcasm

and fyi people in shanksville, pennsylvania are dolts. many of them have never seen a skyscraper in their lives. i doubt they've seen an actual bomb to know what a bomb looks and sounds like.

[way2lazy2care]

Just looks like a 'Bomb' has gone off in the middle.

And guess what... thats what most of all the people in the area said... "Sounded like a bomb went off"\

It's crazy how an exploding plane looks and sounds like something that looks and sounds like something that causes explosions.

I don't know if you know this, but intense fire has a tendency of completely burning everything , let alone something traveling fast enough to completely disintegrate on impact.. Jet fuel burns REALLY hot.

[Javea1]

Well as far as I can see yes, this plan was obviously written but I really highly doubt that it was actually acted out, simply because it was declassified, and i havent seen any evidence that the US government did act out operation northwoods.

Of course it wasn't carried out, but as governor Jesse Ventura states best..

"The simple fact that it (Operation Northwoods) was even contemplated is enough to worry me."

-Jav

[Pawnator]

Have you seen that video. It looks nothing like him.

I'll get you a picture of him from 2000 and compare with the video from 2001.



From the Confession Video The Usama Depicted here has Darker Skin, Fuller Cheeks and a Broader Nose than any other Video with Usama Bin Laden.

Are you arguing that the powerful arm of the U.S. government could fake the attack, but couldn't fake a video properly?

I made it a rule not to come in this section. I remember why.

[DethFanatic]

Of course it wasn't carried out, but as governor Jesse Ventura states best..

"The simple fact that it (Operation Northwoods) was even contemplated is enough to worry me."

-Jav

So? This doesnt prove anything in the slightest, its not even a precedent for 9/11 because it wasnt carried out.

[Javea1]

Obama did 9/11. Alecks Jawns SAID SO.

Grats.. he made a film about a terrible president. Glad you've opened your eyes. I like how you added the picture of the cow.. it's cute.

How dare he make a living.. right?

All of the shit that's spewed in only 1.5 weeks with the Obama presidency is enough to sicken me to my stomach.

http://www.infowars....as-hitler-oath/
http://www.infowars....ma-camps-in-us/
http://www.infowars....o-a-depression/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoqNYC7yzE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9aIb-IplqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifEg1aq6Emo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEVdYn21UBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlCIlzaQ8cs

Scary tbh.. especially since there's so many Obama zombies out there who will do literally anything Obama tells them to do.

Just don't give up your guns for god sakes..

So? This doesnt prove anything in the slightest, its not even a precedent for 9/11 because it wasnt carried out.

So?

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag conspiracy plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba.

false-flag conspiracy plan

false-flag

It was fucking planned. It was PLANNED.

You think they can't actually pull it off after it's all been layed-out on the table?

-Jav

[DethFanatic]

It was fucking planned. IT WAS PLANNED.

You think they can't actually pull it off after it's been layed-out on the table?

-Jav

Of course they can pull it off, but they didnt. The US government is more than capable of pulling off just about everything, but they DIDNT.

You are using something the US government DIDNT DO to prove 9/11. Cute.

[It's ME!]

For anyone interested in a point-by-point debunking of some of the most popular conspiracy theories out there (like the fact that steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C), check out the following links:

http://www.thebestpa...gi?u=911_morons

yea, yea, that is right, i visited the best page in the universe and i got the answer. seriously tho, i believe the 9/11 conspiracy thing to be a complete hoax.

[Starblaiz]

Of course they can pull it off, but they didnt. The US government is more than capable of pulling off just about everything, but they DIDNT.

You are using something the US government DIDNT DO to prove 9/11. Cute.

Maybe not, but it does show that they had that kind of mentality. I mean, if you catch a terrorist with all the plans of how to make a nuke, blueprints for Washington DC, and a load of weapons grade uranium in his basement... oh that's right, you can't arrest him caus he hasnt actually detonated the nuke has he?

[Javea1]

Of course they can pull it off, but they didnt. The US government is more than capable of pulling off just about everything, but they DIDNT.

You are using something the US government DIDNT DO to prove 9/11. Cute.

The discussion of Operation Northwoods was brought into this thread, and so I responded. Nobody is trying to use Northwoods to prove anything about 9/11.

We're simply using the analogy. If it's been publicly declassified to have had plans in 1962 to STAGE terrorism, I'm certainly going to remain very skeptical.

After all.. if I was the average US citizen and I found information about Northwoods, and the plans to carry out apparent acts of terrorism to justify support for war (sound familiar?), that would really worry me.

and fyi people in shanksville, pennsylvania are dolts. many of them have never seen a skyscraper in their lives. i doubt they've seen an actual bomb to know what a bomb looks and sounds like.

OH SHIT DANOLI3! The people in Pennsylvania are dolts... you just got debunked with some hardcore evidence!

-Jav

[confrico]

The discussion of Operation Northwoods was brought into this thread, and so I responded. Nobody is trying to use Northwoods to prove anything about 9/11.

We're simply using the analogy. If it's been publicly declassified to have had plans in 1962 to STAGE terrorism, I'm certainly going to remain very skeptical.

After all.. if I was the average US citizen and I found information about Northwoods, and the plans to carry out apparent acts of terrorism to justify support for war (sound familiar?), that would really worry me.

the same can be said of fanatical jihadism around the world

just replace "operation northwoods" with "jihad" and you've got yourself some comparin' to do... except that islam is more relevant today than a cold war era operation some 45 years ago

[Danoli3]

Please Watch:

Zeitgeist: Part 2
http://video.google....eitgeist Part 2

Or the whole Documentary:
http://video.google....683847743189197

[Pawnator]

Please Watch:

Zeitgeist: Part 2
http://video.google....eitgeist Part 2

Or the whole Documentary:
http://video.google....683847743189197

Goethe's Law: If a poster cites Zeitgeist as a credible source, he automatically loses the argument.

End of discussion!

We can drink to a good day's work, ST1d.

Finally, after all this time.

[TubularLuggage]

Goethe's Law: If a poster cites Zeitgeist as a credible source, he automatically loses the argument.

End of discussion!

We can drink to a good day's work, ST1d.

Finally, after all this time.

I'm glad to see there's finally a term for that now.

[Danoli3]

Goethe's Law: If a poster cites Zeitgeist as a credible source, he automatically loses the argument.

End of discussion!

We can drink to a good day's work, ST1d.

Finally, after all this time.

Did I cite it as a credible source: Or did I just link it.

I think I just linked it.

Have you watched the whole thing anyway?

So Not End of Discussion.