US slavery was suitable because it was thought that african's were less evolutionary evolved than people of european descent. I think I am correct in that hitler had a similar reason for justifying the holocaust. In that he felt Aryans were the purest race scientifically and removing the less pure races to keep their race as pure as possible. How is that not a biological justification?
Because this is not true. Evolution doesnt work like that, diversity isnt based upon traits you find favourable. Where in the world of biology does it state that a race is inferior or superior to another based upon skin color or even descent? Kindly point it out to us.
It is typical for religious people to try to blame Hitler and US slavery upon science. It wasnt science fault to produce mis-guide, mis-educated people like Hitler. His beliefs had nothing to do with science and more to do with his fanatical mind, which had no scientific evidence to back up his claim.
And ID is creationism in this sake of argument. Giving an intepretation of what ID is for you doesnt change what we are debating about.
A simple question you probably get asked all the time. If ID works, then who created the creator?
The answer you'd probably give is to exclude the creator from the equation of creation. Suddenly, all the rules of creation does not apply to God.
While I agree, I am not that vested in the arguments being made. I am bored more than anything when I post in this thread.
I just feel like pointing out when people who argue for science over religion won't put enough research into a religion to get some of the most basic and core concepts of religions being argued against occasionally.
If it were up to me to make up the decision of who is winning the debate right now. I would easily give it to those who argue against the need for religion.
I believe what makes sense to me. If you believe in evolution who's not to say our diverse races evolved from the original humans Adam and Eve. Also consider that fact that I am in no way sure of anything. While I don't think the universe was created solely for us (humans), I definitely believe in god, and a majority of the Bible.
Well, that doesnt make sense to me. Diversity comes from mixing of all kinds of genes. It is no wonder why mixed race children look beautiful or crossbreeding of dogs produces a whole new looking dog with desirable traits. Adam and Eve were two modern day human beings (fully developed humans). If our entire human race came from these ancestors, we would be doomed. Why do you think you dont mate with people within your family? It's because you share the same genes and therefore diversity is diminished. Also, the chances of producing a baby with down syndrome increases tenthfold.
I think our problem here is I don't know the correct name for my beleifs and I just vall myself methodist christian because that's how I've been raised. That's kind of living proof against what you said about raising children. Kids have minds of their own man (most of them). We do what we want.
No, that's living proof for what I said. You have been doctrined into your parents religion without the chance to explore the possibilities that there may not be a god. It is obvious to me that you have not done any exploration and believe whole-heartedly in the bible. That being said, you are taking the right steps in finding out things for yourself. Kids do not have a mind of their own. They wouldnt be so easily manipulated if they did.
Edited by Riddle, 07 April 2010 - 12:46 AM.