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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Oct 3 2011, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
MW and MW2 had 2 parts that I'd consider really pushed the art side of video games. The nuke in MW and the airport in MW2 were both fairly emotional. A lot of the rest of the games fell victim to michael bay syndrome, but those 2 parts were pretty extraordinary.

Actually I have to agree partially with this.

The nuke in the original Modern Warfare blew me away (lol pun intended) and was actually really emotional.

The airport though was kind of (an obvious) ploy to do the exact same thing in the next game... which is why I never liked that part of the game.

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Most certainly. Art doesn't really have a definition, therefore it really is just personal opinion what you think is or isn't art.

Just in my personal opinion, something made not to tell a great story / paint a great picture / give a great experience isn't art. For example most of the games you stated (although as way2lazy pointed out, I actually forgot about one of the parts of CoD I actually felt a ton of emotion for) I wouldn't in general call very artistic but even a game like Mirror's Edge I could consider had a bit of an artistic candle to it. I loved the use of colours + the creative concept in Mirror's Edge... it's just a shame the execution seemed all wrong icon_sad.gif

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I like how this turned from a thread about CoD into a thread about how video games are or aren't art.

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I took an art appreciation class once and there was this one guy who purchased a urinal and basically just went to an art show and put it on a pedestal. That became a very famous work of art. Totally forget the guys name though. If that can be art, pretty much anything can as far as I care.

Have some more GOOD art.


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QUOTE (Andrack @ Oct 4 2011, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I took an art appreciation class once and there was this one guy who purchased a urinal and basically just went to an art show and put it on a pedestal. That became a very famous work of art. Totally forget the guys name though. If that can be art, pretty much anything can as far as I care.

Have some more GOOD art.

I've seen it.

I could also link "better" art (but that is a pretty good animation ;P).

If the purpose of a urinal is for someone to walk up to it and piss in it, it wouldn't be art.
If the purpose of a game was to slaughter people based on real soldiers for entertainment, it's not art.

If a urinal was set up in the right environment, given proper explanation and somehow creates an emotion within an audience, sure it's art.
If the game where you slaughter people based on real soldiers for entertainment creates an emotion with its audience, then your audience probably needs to be checked in the head.

Edited by CakeCom, 04 October 2011 - 04:09 PM.


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QUOTE (CakeCom @ Oct 4 2011, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the purpose of a urinal is for someone to walk up to it and piss in it, it wouldn't be art.
If the purpose of a game was to slaughter people based on real soldiers for entertainment, it's not art.

If a urinal was set up in the right environment, given proper explanation and somehow creates an emotion within an audience, sure it's art.
If the game where you slaughter people based on real soldiers for entertainment creates an emotion with its audience, then your audience probably needs to be checked in the head.

How could you possibly be able to slaughter people, based off the actions of real soldiers...

and not feel something?

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QUOTE (spiri7ussancti @ Oct 4 2011, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How could you possibly be able to slaughter people, based off the actions of real soldiers...

and not feel something?

That's not what I said.

What I said is, it's slaughtering people who are supposed to be representations of real life soldiers.
And if you honestly feel terrible for shooting every single person you have in CoD, CS, Quake, etc. then GG.

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QUOTE (CakeCom @ Oct 4 2011, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's not what I said.

What I said is, it's slaughtering people who are supposed to be representations of real life soldiers.
And if you honestly feel terrible for shooting every single person you have in CoD, CS, Quake, etc. then GG.

misinterpreted

however i think i'm always going to be set in my ways on this one. Video games will always be art to me.

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Not all emotions/feelings are extreme. Art doesn't have to provoke strong emotion/feeling to be art. Art means something different to everyone.

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QUOTE (j type @ Oct 5 2011, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not all emotions/feelings are extreme. Art doesn't have to provoke strong emotion/feeling to be art. Art means something different to everyone.




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QUOTE (j type @ Oct 4 2011, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not all emotions/feelings are extreme. Art doesn't have to provoke strong emotion/feeling to be art. Art means something different to everyone.

And that's what I said a while ago.

But someone got me back into the argument for some reason... so I went with it ;P.

For ME it has to give you some strong emotion or at the least a sense of personal attachment (which CoD/CS/Quake might... it just seems really weird to me ;p).
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Ah nevermore, I was just trying to remember your name the other day. I always recognize you from your avatars, not so much the name >.<'

Edited by CakeCom, 04 October 2011 - 09:00 PM.





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