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[Mania]

So PP is dead. shame and all, but life goes on....

let's start a thread with alternatives, i only know some obvious ones:

Brotherhood of Leet
The Guild
Legend of Neil


what else you got?

Edited by Mania, 30 September 2011 - 08:16 PM.

[CakeCom]

So PP is dead. shame and all, but life goes on....

let's start a thread with alternatives, i only know some obvious ones:

Brotherhood of Leet
The Guild
Legend of Neil


what else you got?

www.thatguywiththeglasses.com

That site is FULL of amazing content and are affiliated with other great internet series

You can also check out:
Yugioh Abridged
Cinemassacre.com (AVGN)
TotalHalibut
Zero Punctuation
Extra Credits
SITMOS
*Edit*
Anything from Roosterteeth EXCEPT Red Vs. Blue (Honestly, if you're going to argue with me that it's a great series you're delusional. It stopped being funny after Season 1 and they've dragged it to death)

Phelous.com
SpoonyExperiment.com

Edited by CakeCom, 30 September 2011 - 08:28 PM.

[ThrashTitan]

Red Vs. Blue (Honestly, if you're going to argue with me that it's a great series you're delusional. It stopped being funny after Season 1 and they've dragged it to death)

You are about 18-19 yeah? Thats the real reason it stopped being funny.

[oldSkool]

You are about 18-19 yeah? Thats the real reason it stopped being funny.

Possibly some truth there.

But I actually think the first 'series' (Seasons 1-4 or 5) were pretty good. Right up to the part they started going on about [Spoiler Alert] the AI BS... Then it got stupid.

I've tried watching the latest implementation - and it just didn't captivate me _at all_.

Brotherhood of Leet was quite awesome - but it too is finished (I think...)

I thought we already had a thread like this here

[LalaLand]

www.thatguywiththeglasses.com

That site is FULL of amazing content and are affiliated with other great internet series

You can also check out:
Yugioh Abridged
Cinemassacre.com (AVGN)
TotalHalibut
Zero Punctuation
Extra Credits
SITMOS
*Edit*
Anything from Roosterteeth EXCEPT Red Vs. Blue (Honestly, if you're going to argue with me that it's a great series you're delusional. It stopped being funny after Season 1 and they've dragged it to death)

Phelous.com
SpoonyExperiment.com

Pretty much anything I can recommend has been said here. Though I have a very hard time considering most of these "web series." Many of them are very close between the border of video log /podcast and actual fictional narrative or dramatic content. This fad of internet reviews is kind of getting old to be honest.

Edit, I just remembered Dr. Horrible's sing along blog. More like a "mini-web series" than anything else, but a lot of people seem to enjoy it, and it's a pretty well produced short-term alternative to more online reviews if that's not your thing. http://drhorrible.com/

You guys should also try browsing Blip.TV too. Who knows? Maybe you'll be the one to discover the next big web series before anyone else just by digging through content that's being posted on there. There's definitely some more narrative based web series on blip, but many of them are not very good.

Edit #2:

I just remembered another VERY old web series (about 5 episodes) that was independently produced (no famous actors or anything). This is years ago, back before Pure Pwnage was even a thing. It's called "Superheros" and it's a very loose comical series about an average guy who suddenly gets superpowers, and his best friend and sidekick, who takes the title "Cancer Lad" -- because the device that gives his friend superpowers, gives him Cancer. Lots of good laughs. http://www.amfproduc...oes-web-series/

Edited by LalaLand, 01 October 2011 - 09:54 AM.

[CakeCom]

Pretty much anything I can recommend has been said here. Though I have a very hard time considering most of these "web series." Many of them are very close between the border of video log /podcast and actual fictional narrative or dramatic content. This fad of internet reviews is kind of getting old to be honest.

I kind of agree.

The thing is, I always find myself going back for more of the actual talented reviewers... the whole landfill of them in general though is kind of annoying to have to sift through. It's like a (yes this saying) needle in a haystack when looking for some actual talent. BUT most of TGWTG seems to be pretty talented, this is why I recommend that site 100%.

Back to it not being a "web series", again I agree but that doesn't take anything away from the talent. The episodes do usually contain little throwbacks to old episodes, but you could pretty much watch them in any order and still understand what's going on completely- but maybe that's why the series are so successful.

Yeah I'm 18 (technically I've been lying about my age most of my time on the internet, therefore if you look at any of my other posts you'd probably assume me to be about 20 right now. I've only hit 18 recently tho ;P)... I dunno, that could have something to do with me not liking past the first season of RVB, but it really sucks because I do like the guys from Roosterteeth. I think they've contributed quite a bit to the world of Machinima... but it sucks when I look back and can't even enjoy their old stuff anymore

I think I'm one of those people that really can't just let go of the past

[Wolfenbarg]

I'd actually dissuade people from going to thatguywiththeglasses.com. It was good fun for a while, but their idea of diversifying is adding storylines to reviews (the last place they belong, unless that's part of the gimmick to begin with, like the Plinkett reviews) and picking up more and more reviewers. It's tired by this point, and they are rapidly approaching their 15th minute unless something drastic happens. You also can't vouch for quality control, as Spoony was the only one to make worthwhile investments toward better production values, and most of it has basically become a glorified set of riffs instead of well written material. If you're looking for something to fill the gap Pure Pwnage left, that's not a good place to start. Just my opinion though, and probably an unpopular one.

Anyway, here are my suggestions:

Doomsday Arcade - Short, but probably the closest thing to pure gaming humor and story you can get to Pure Pwnage. It was great while it lasted, though ended rather abruptly. Worth a watch or two... or three.

Apocalypse Lane - The first few episodes are a bit iffy, but it quickly picks up and is very difficult to stop watching after you get into it. Great all the way to the very end, and that ending really stuck with me. I still sing the tune from the final credit roll from time to time.

Pro Gamer Gauntlet - Very quirky, but very entertaining. They recently had an issue with their huge cast and crew, and this may have gone the way of Pure Pwnage, but there is still hope that it will come back. Either way, I would check out what they have, it's quite amusing.

Commodore Hustle - Another web sitcom, and it's awesome. The first season is longform similar to Pure Pwnage, while the second season is shorter and more self contained. Great stuff, though.

[CPT Steel]

How has nobody suggested Cardboard Warfare that stuff is great lol makes u wounder how much money was spent on cardboard cause that cardboard doesn't look like it came from boxs

[LalaLand]

I'd actually dissuade people from going to thatguywiththeglasses.com. It was good fun for a while, but their idea of diversifying is adding storylines to reviews (the last place they belong, unless that's part of the gimmick to begin with, like the Plinkett reviews) and picking up more and more reviewers. It's tired by this point, and they are rapidly approaching their 15th minute unless something drastic happens. You also can't vouch for quality control, as Spoony was the only one to make worthwhile investments toward better production values, and most of it has basically become a glorified set of riffs instead of well written material. If you're looking for something to fill the gap Pure Pwnage left, that's not a good place to start. Just my opinion though, and probably an unpopular one.

Anyway, here are my suggestions:

Doomsday Arcade - Short, but probably the closest thing to pure gaming humor and story you can get to Pure Pwnage. It was great while it lasted, though ended rather abruptly. Worth a watch or two... or three.

Apocalypse Lane - The first few episodes are a bit iffy, but it quickly picks up and is very difficult to stop watching after you get into it. Great all the way to the very end, and that ending really stuck with me. I still sing the tune from the final credit roll from time to time.

Pro Gamer Gauntlet - Very quirky, but very entertaining. They recently had an issue with their huge cast and crew, and this may have gone the way of Pure Pwnage, but there is still hope that it will come back. Either way, I would check out what they have, it's quite amusing.

Commodore Hustle - Another web sitcom, and it's awesome. The first season is longform similar to Pure Pwnage, while the second season is shorter and more self contained. Great stuff, though.

Eh, tired for you maybe but many people still love the site. I find some stuff on it occasionally entertaining. Too many reviewers means you do have to sort through lots of less polished material to find the better stuff, but to each his own. I wouldn't recommend people outright not watch the site just because you or I didn't like some of their videos though -- everyone should try it out for themselves first, and form their own opinion. The Nostalgia critic is still pretty fun. Many people like the storylines. I don't really but there's definitely an audience there for it.

[CakeCom]

I understand the disliking of a bit of story in a review... but I enjoy it personally ;P

Spoony, Phelous, Cyborcat (GameDen), Nostalgia Critic, Angry Joe are all great guys with some pretty good production value imo.

But yeah, past that you really gotta sift through some of the stuff that isn't very high quality. I think it's admirable that they let lower tier reviewers on board and try to give them a chance to join the ranks though.

(I don't mind the memes + inside jokes. They're funny imo ;P)

Edited by CakeCom, 06 October 2011 - 09:47 AM.

[LalaLand]

I understand the disliking of a bit of story in a review... but I enjoy it personally ;P

Spoony, Phelous, Cyborcat (GameDen), Nostalgia Critic, Angry Joe are all great guys with some pretty good production value imo.

But yeah, past that you really gotta sift through some of the stuff that isn't very high quality. I think it's admirable that they let lower tier reviewers on board and try to give them a chance to join the ranks though.

(I don't mind the memes + inside jokes. They're funny imo ;P)

Agreed. I'd never personally dislike someone for trying. And there's always room for improvement. I just don't click videos I don't think will be interesting. For me it's that simple. Again, I recommend others reading this thread investigate it on their own. Many people love the site and if there's a chance others will too, see for yourselves rather than listen to the praise or bashing of others.

[Wolfenbarg]

On the business side of things, Mike Michaud started out as a damned visionary. His idea of creating an online network in preparation to fend off against big TV when they finally realized how profitable the internet can be compared to relying on the dated Nielson system was absolutely brilliant. After Kickassia appeared and they officially put out the Channel Awesome brand on most of their videos, I figured they were prepped for an online take over. Their strategy? Draft more reviewers, great. The Nostalgia Critic and the first few big timers who joined (Spoony, Linkara, Angry Joe, Nostalgia Chick) established a brand for reviewing, but instead of expanding and broadening their horizons, they just drafted more people who seem to fall under the same brand. It's basically producing commercial dog food for the masses now after making a first big sale, and it isn't working. Imagine if Jarret and Geoff recruited the Pure Pwnage ripoffs to their site and promoted the hell out of them for the sake of their site's longevity. Would you call them out on losing artistic integrity? I certainly would, and that's why I'm rather dismissive of TGWTG. That's not to say that their content creators are all a bunch of hacks though. Spoony and Angry Joe are semi-regular stops of mine, and Brad Jones' side projects like Hooker With a Heart of Gold are mind bogglingly good. But the rest...? Not going to fill a Pure Pwnage gap. But that's just my own personal rant, I get kind of jaded about media.

Anyway, other shows I forgot to post before:

The Plinkett Reviews - I know, I just went on a tirade about internet reviewers and came here to recommend more of them. This is very different though, the Plinkett Reviews on Star Trek and the Star Wars prequels are just about the most hilarious and insightful things I've seen on the internet. This guy will have you dying of laughter, cringing in shock and horror, and taking notes more inspiring and technical than some things you'd pick up in film school courses. If you love movies, you have to see these.

Half in the Bag - Same people who make the Plinkett Reviews, but with contemporary films with a completely different concept. Same insight, different format.

Gigabots - Probably one of the most ridiculously amazing things on the internet. A Power Rangers riff show with giant fighting robots made out of cardboard saving a cardboard New Neo Tokyo II from other practical effects monsters. It's raunchy and hilarious, and is way underexposed. Pretty much everything else I posted found quite an audience, but this show didn't. Its first episode was quite successful on Youtube, but the others, despite being just as good didn't pick up the same number of views. Look it up, it's hilarious. While you're at it, check out everything else by the Duncan Brothers, they're great.

The Deepening: Select Your Own Adventure Edition - This is obviously not a show, but it's interactive web video at its funniest. The production values are also pretty stellar. These guys know their craft.

Penny Arcade: The Series - A web reality series about everyone's favorite web comic. I personally don't care much for the comic at all, but this show is incredible. It manages to be inspiring while also being funnier than the comic that spawned it. Maybe it's just me, but I find the creative process behind the strips to be funnier than the strips themselves.

DigitalRevTV - Photography product reviews by a quirky asian Englishman living in Hong Kong. The reviews are great if you're interested in photography or DSLR filmmaking and the guy just has a great personality. Seeing him walk the streets of Hong Kong doing street photography can be a laugh riot. Their channel also includes the The Internet's Most Talented Photographer and the Pro Photographer/Cheap Camera Challenge. Both pretty self explanatory, but both very, very good. If you check this channel out, you'll probably be surprised that it's web exclusive, it's all very well made.

EDIT: Since I mentioned it...

Hooker With a Heart of Gold - A mini-series by Brad Jones playing the old trope out in a very literal way, with a crazy scientist putting a pure gold heart into a hooker's chest after accidentally running her down with his car. If the production values were up to snuff on this, it would be a cult film, it's that well written.

There, more stuff. I have even more shows, but I seem to be getting off the narrative track here.

Edited by Wolfenbarg, 07 October 2011 - 03:47 AM.

[LalaLand]

On the business side of things, Mike Michaud started out as a damned visionary. His idea of creating an online network in preparation to fend off against big TV when they finally realized how profitable the internet can be compared to relying on the dated Nielson system was absolutely brilliant. After Kickassia appeared and they officially put out the Channel Awesome brand on most of their videos, I figured they were prepped for an online take over. Their strategy? Draft more reviewers, great. The Nostalgia Critic and the first few big timers who joined (Spoony, Linkara, Angry Joe, Nostalgia Chick) established a brand for reviewing, but instead of expanding and broadening their horizons, they just drafted more people who seem to fall under the same brand. It's basically producing commercial dog food for the masses now after making a first big sale, and it isn't working. Imagine if Jarret and Geoff recruited the Pure Pwnage ripoffs to their site and promoted the hell out of them for the sake of their site's longevity. Would you call them out on losing artistic integrity? I certainly would, and that's why I'm rather dismissive of TGWTG. That's not to say that their content creators are all a bunch of hacks though. Spoony and Angry Joe are semi-regular stops of mine, and Brad Jones' side projects like Hooker With a Heart of Gold are mind bogglingly good. But the rest...? Not going to fill a Pure Pwnage gap. But that's just my own personal rant, I get kind of jaded about media.

Anyway, other shows I forgot to post before:

The Plinkett Reviews - I know, I just went on a tirade about internet reviewers and came here to recommend more of them. This is very different though, the Plinkett Reviews on Star Trek and the Star Wars prequels are just about the most hilarious and insightful things I've seen on the internet. This guy will have you dying of laughter, cringing in shock and horror, and taking notes more inspiring and technical than some things you'd pick up in film school courses. If you love movies, you have to see these.

Half in the Bag - Same people who make the Plinkett Reviews, but with contemporary films with a completely different concept. Same insight, different format.

Gigabots - Probably one of the most ridiculously amazing things on the internet. A Power Rangers riff show with giant fighting robots made out of cardboard saving a cardboard New Neo Tokyo II from other practical effects monsters. It's raunchy and hilarious, and is way underexposed. Pretty much everything else I posted found quite an audience, but this show didn't. Its first episode was quite successful on Youtube, but the others, despite being just as good didn't pick up the same number of views. Look it up, it's hilarious. While you're at it, check out everything else by the Duncan Brothers, they're great.

The Deepening: Select Your Own Adventure Edition - This is obviously not a show, but it's interactive web video at its funniest. The production values are also pretty stellar. These guys know their craft.

Penny Arcade: The Series - A web reality series about everyone's favorite web comic. I personally don't care much for the comic at all, but this show is incredible. It manages to be inspiring while also being funnier than the comic that spawned it. Maybe it's just me, but I find the creative process behind the strips to be funnier than the strips themselves.

DigitalRevTV - Photography product reviews by a quirky asian Englishman living in Hong Kong. The reviews are great if you're interested in photography or DSLR filmmaking and the guy just has a great personality. Seeing him walk the streets of Hong Kong doing street photography can be a laugh riot. Their channel also includes the The Internet's Most Talented Photographer and the Pro Photographer/Cheap Camera Challenge. Both pretty self explanatory, but both very, very good. If you check this channel out, you'll probably be surprised that it's web exclusive, it's all very well made.

EDIT: Since I mentioned it...

Hooker With a Heart of Gold - A mini-series by Brad Jones playing the old trope out in a very literal way, with a crazy scientist putting a pure gold heart into a hooker's chest after accidentally running her down with his car. If the production values were up to snuff on this, it would be a cult film, it's that well written.

There, more stuff. I have even more shows, but I seem to be getting off the narrative track here.

I definitely understand where you're coming from and I agree with many of your points too, actually. (Especially what you said about after Kickassia, I too thought cool maybe they'll start picking up some comedy here, some drama there, etc. .. instead it's turned into a review site mostly). All I'm saying is though that there is still some good stuff on there and that I don't think it's a fair point to stop people from enjoying it if that's what they enjoy.

You have a lot of stuff to mention though which is really cool and nice of you to share with us. I wonder if the OP should actually update this thread and compile everyones suggestions w/ links? In fact, wouldn't it be cool if there was some hub out there, a website that did this sort of compiling for viewers? Some kind of hub that just keeps track of online web series and such. It could be great for both viewers and the creators themselves for publicity, assuming there was some kind of quality control and not just any youtube blog could be listed.

What do you guys think about web series that have so called "limited runs" -- ie, a web series that is planned out to last a limited number of episodes with an intended beginning, middle, and end? Personally so long as the content is good I think I prefer that sort of thing to series that are meant to go on indefinitely until the creators run out of ideas.

[CakeCom]

@DudeAboveWhoWasTalkingAboutChannelAwesome
I see what you're saying and never really thought about it... you're right, there are quite a bit of (dare I say) hacks on the site who basically just copy / paste what the Critic has been doing for the longest time. Maybe they should try to include other genres of shows and stuff...

Also I loved Brads Midnight Movie Screenings Marathon over the summer >=3 Was awesome.

What do you guys think about web series that have so called "limited runs" -- ie, a web series that is planned out to last a limited number of episodes with an intended beginning, middle, and end? Personally so long as the content is good I think I prefer that sort of thing to series that are meant to go on indefinitely until the creators run out of ideas.

I dislike MOST Minecraft series because they don't have an end. They never really have an objective. (But what you're talking about is fine, Pure Pwnage was definitely set with the idea that eventually it would end [properly] and they probably had the ending planned out in episode 19 / 20 / season 2)

It really irks me when there's 500 minecraft videos on youtube where the intro is "Hey guys... today Im gonna survive... in minecraft..."
I mean... that game is just so fucking easy. Give yourself a challenge. I LOVE the Minecraft series where they give themselves challenges tho (You must try to find a Golden Apple, you MUST attempt to get to the end of the world, you MUST live underground permanently + get certain achievements, etc.) because they kind of have ends. You know either they're going to die, or they're going to succeed in their goals. Endless series I just find boring + repetitive.

(Except for X's LP Minecraft... I think he's the only Minecraft LPer I've ever really enjoyed who didn't set some crazy goal for himself.)

[LalaLand]

@DudeAboveWhoWasTalkingAboutChannelAwesome
I see what you're saying and never really thought about it... you're right, there are quite a bit of (dare I say) hacks on the site who basically just copy / paste what the Critic has been doing for the longest time. Maybe they should try to include other genres of shows and stuff...

Also I loved Brads Midnight Movie Screenings Marathon over the summer >=3 Was awesome.


I dislike MOST Minecraft series because they don't have an end. They never really have an objective. (But what you're talking about is fine, Pure Pwnage was definitely set with the idea that eventually it would end [properly] and they probably had the ending planned out in episode 19 / 20 / season 2)

It really irks me when there's 500 minecraft videos on youtube where the intro is "Hey guys... today Im gonna survive... in minecraft..."
I mean... that game is just so fucking easy. Give yourself a challenge. I LOVE the Minecraft series where they give themselves challenges tho (You must try to find a Golden Apple, you MUST attempt to get to the end of the world, you MUST live underground permanently + get certain achievements, etc.) because they kind of have ends. You know either they're going to die, or they're going to succeed in their goals. Endless series I just find boring + repetitive.

(Except for X's LP Minecraft... I think he's the only Minecraft LPer I've ever really enjoyed who didn't set some crazy goal for himself.)

I wasn't talking about LP's or video game footage, I meant actual stories that were written with scripts and stuff.

[Wolfenbarg]

What do you guys think about web series that have so called "limited runs" -- ie, a web series that is planned out to last a limited number of episodes with an intended beginning, middle, and end? Personally so long as the content is good I think I prefer that sort of thing to series that are meant to go on indefinitely until the creators run out of ideas.

Like an online mini-series? I personally think it's the future of dramatic content on the web. The mini-series even on television has the benefit of a large space for plot and character development but the advantage of being short enough so networks can't mess with their artistic integrity just for the sake of ratings. The fact that it's well plotted out from beginning to end means you have a stable level of vision that is consistent to the very end. Most serious web series that pop up these days are like this, but they tend to run way too obscure to pick up large audiences due to the rather insular set-up web tv currently has (most of those producers live in California and try to get credibility through local screenings... if you see a major problem with that, it's only because you have eyes). I actually have three different shows like that plotted out that I'm going to make as my craft gets better. The best part about writing them is that you never have to make these unnatural stretches to figure out what the characters would do in certain situations or craft situations for them to have shenanigans with. You just stick with your running plot similar to how a feature film would work.

Also, once I get some time I'll add links to all of my posts. It's kind of a pain to google all of that stuff, I know. Instant gratification and all that.

Edited by Wolfenbarg, 07 October 2011 - 03:30 PM.

[DarkAscension]

You are about 18-19 yeah? Thats the real reason it stopped being funny.

HEY! I'm 19 and I find it fucking hilarious! >8(

[oldSkool]

HEY! I'm 19 and I find it fucking hilarious! >8(

Even the current series?

[DarkAscension]

Even the current series?

Yep.

[PFC BENJI]

Anyway, here are my suggestions:

Doomsday Arcade - Short, but probably the closest thing to pure gaming humor and story you can get to Pure Pwnage. It was great while it lasted, though ended rather abruptly. Worth a watch or two... or three.

Apocalypse Lane - The first few episodes are a bit iffy, but it quickly picks up and is very difficult to stop watching after you get into it. Great all the way to the very end, and that ending really stuck with me. I still sing the tune from the final credit roll from time to time.

Pro Gamer Gauntlet - Very quirky, but very entertaining. They recently had an issue with their huge cast and crew, and this may have gone the way of Pure Pwnage, but there is still hope that it will come back. Either way, I would check out what they have, it's quite amusing.

Commodore Hustle - Another web sitcom, and it's awesome. The first season is longform similar to Pure Pwnage, while the second season is shorter and more self contained. Great stuff, though.

I completely agree with this list.

if you are going to watch Commodore Hustle I recommend you watch Loading Ready Run (they used to be n00bstore partners with PP).

their is another show that is also pretty much dead but it was worth watching imo called teamepic.tv which is about Canadian superheroes. and another called Doraleous and associates which are from the same makers of Apocalypse Lane.

oh and here are the links to the shows above

http://www.escapistm...doomsday-arcade

http://www.escapistm...-and-associates

http://www.escapistm...apocalypse-lane

http://www.progamergauntlet.com/

http://loadingreadyr...ustle/date/desc

http://loadingreadyrun.com

http://teamepic.tv