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It's truly upsetting seeing what's happening in Egypt, specifically Cairo. The violence that these people are putting up with is ridiculous, downright insane. I for one, support the cause to get the current president dictator out of office. What say you guys?
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Well I would have to agree, although I dont know very much about the situation. Never trust the media though.
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Don't live in egypt/Africa, none of my business.


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QUOTE (Andrack @ Feb 5 2011, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't live in egypt/Africa, none of my business.


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QUOTE (Andrack @ Feb 6 2011, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't live in egypt/Africa, none of my business.


I am friends with people who live in Egypt and others who have family there. It's still none of my business.

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mubarak must go, long overdue. but whether the puppet goes or stays is up to the puppeteer.


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QUOTE (lolcrica90 @ Feb 6 2011, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mubarak must go, long overdue. but whether the puppet goes or stays is up to the puppeteer.

oh god...

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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Feb 7 2011, 12:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh god...

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They fucking did it, great respect out to the people of Egypt, however I hope they will also make sure Mubarak's "plan" to still stay in control but from behind the scenes will also be banished, and Murarak-like figures don't come and pick up where he left or, worst of all. The Islamic party taking control.

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Didn't they do something like this 15 years ago?

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I find it kinda funny that while Mubarak isn't exactly a good ruler, he did allot of good for Egypt in the past. An people are kinda forgetting about that, plus while it's good that Egypt wants democracy,it's just their country isn't the type it'll stick quite well, they follow strict rules on several things like praying, or special days when they don't work at all, not to mention their entire economy is build on tourism, selling oranges and well maybe some resources. What I'm trying to say that the youth which started this basically saw how democracy works in other countries, and thinks it might work well in Egypt, which I really doubt it will.



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it's interesting to see how this will work out. the good thing is that the people of egypt wanted change and placed the responsibility upon themselves to make sure that it happened. and if history is anything to go by when it's an inside influence that brings about the change it usually lasts for a long time, case in point the fall of the berlin wall and also the cuban revolution which funnily enough has been a stable socialist regime for 50+ yrs. whereas when change is brought upon by outside influence well there's not many positives, case in point america's venture into vietnam and more recently afghanistan and iraq, even the soviets failed to conquer the taliban in the 80's.

also i don't really see what the problem is with all this fretting about the islamic party in egypt. if they really are a threat to the stability of egypt, why isn't it that you hear any egyptian people denouncing them and demanding they be banned when you turn on your news? instead it's all these anchors and so called "experts", thousands of miles away from cairo, who are waving the red flag.

so i say well done to the egyptian people and viva la revolution!!


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okay so i felt like posting here instead of making a new thread all the shit in the middle east is related.

what i just want to say is this. the "coalitions" bombardment of Libya, just another oil run?


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Prob not, Libya was getting right fucked as of late.

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QUOTE (Sir Kyle Aziz @ Apr 4 2011, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Prob not, Libya was getting right fucked as of late.

yes but there is also unrest in yemen, syria, jordan. these countries too have been under rule from the same person or families for decades also. and there have been reports of human rights violations but perhaps not as publicized as libya's. but you don't see anybody calling for a no-fly zone over them do you. maybe this list will tell you why.

The Mideast's Oil Produces, by Known Reserves
Rank Country Reserves (billions of barrels)
1 Saudi Arabia 262.3
2 Iran 136.3
3 Iraq 115
4 Kuwait 101
5 United Arab Emirates 97.8
6 Libya 41.5
7 Kazakhstan 30
8 Qatar 15.2
9 Algeria 12.70
10 Azerbaijan 7
11 Oman 5.5
12 Sudan 5
13 Egypt 3.7
14 Yemen 3
15 Syria 2.5
16 Turkmenistan 0.6
17 Uzbekistan 0.6
18 Tunisia 0.4
19 Pakistan 0.3
Source: U.S. Department of Energy, Oil & Gas Journal; 2007 figures.
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Why does something have to be black or white? Can it not be a situation where we are helping stop oppression by giving a revolt that would otherwise have no chance at all a shred of a chance, helping to stabilize a region that's been one of the most unstable regions in recent history, and securing a resource that we are going to need for at least 50 more years if we want our society to remain the way it is.

I think its very naive how so many people pin huge diplomatic decisions made by the largest super power in the world on a single motive.

Compare it I guess to the question, "Why do you have a job?" Do you have a job because you like to get drunk and you need to pay for your drinking? Of course that isn't the only reason you have a job. You have a job so you can have money to pay for student loans, food, rent, video games, entertainment, phone bills, etc etc.

And as always, it's easy to sit there and call someone heartless for doing the right thing with the wrong motives as you sit there and do nothing.
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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Apr 8 2011, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as always, it's easy to sit there and call someone heartless for doing the right thing with the wrong motives as you sit there and do nothing.


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QUOTE (way2lazy2care @ Apr 8 2011, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why does something have to be black or white? Can it not be a situation where we are helping stop oppression by giving a revolt that would otherwise have no chance at all a shred of a chance, helping to stabilize a region that's been one of the most unstable regions in recent history, and securing a resource that we are going to need for at least 50 more years if we want our society to remain the way it is.

I think its very naive how so many people pin huge diplomatic decisions made by the largest super power in the world on a single motive.

Compare it I guess to the question, "Why do you have a job?" Do you have a job because you like to get drunk and you need to pay for your drinking? Of course that isn't the only reason you have a job. You have a job so you can have money to pay for student loans, food, rent, video games, entertainment, phone bills, etc etc.

And as always, it's easy to sit there and call someone heartless for doing the right thing with the wrong motives as you sit there and do nothing.

yes but why be so selective in choosing which regimes to help topple. protestors are getting killed in syria and yemem too, and they don't have guns to shoot back. their leaders have dealt with any oppression to their rule with an iron fist just as bad as gaddafi. why is the retaliation towards them less severe than it is to libya when the exact same crimes are being committed. it's bullshit to just help one set of people and turn a blind eye to others who are getting it just as bad. that's what i can't get my head around.

take the green revolution in iran summers past. iran is probably the most severe threat to stability in the middle east. a rigged election kept the same cronies in power. people took to the streets in protest, where was obama? well he certainly learned from his mistake when the egyptian protests came around, or do you really think he is that naive.

and no society is not going to remain the same in 50 years, it is always changing. it always has and always will. quite frankly i don't give a shit about oil reserves, but doing the right thing with wrong motives is still wrong. securing an energy resource that can be irrelevant in 50years with the progress that science is making at the cost of thousands of lives. you tell me how that makes any sense.



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Sounds to me like you got your tinfoil hat on.

Libya had been cooking for several months before anyone got involved. You can't say that no one will stop Syria and Yemen as well within a month or two. If they do something tomorrow about it even maybe that'd shut your mouth and make you look stupid.


You can't talk and act as if you know the motives of the government unless you're the one who's standing beside the person making the decisions when they make them, years later you can see what their motives were/are because you can see the cause and effect of their actions. You can't see cause and effect 3 weeks later so don't expect to, and don't expect to know everything because it just makes you some crackpop conspiracy theorist.



If you DO have a problem with what is happening stop pissing and moaning about it on the internet and go out and fucking DO something about it. People like that seriously test my patience.

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QUOTE (Sir Kyle Aziz @ Apr 10 2011, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Libya had been cooking for several months before anyone got involved. You can't say that no one will stop Syria and Yemen as well within a month or two. If they do something tomorrow about it even maybe that'd shut your mouth and make you look stupid.

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You can't talk and act as if you know the motives of the government unless you're the one who's standing beside the person making the decisions when they make them, years later you can see what their motives were/are because you can see the cause and effect of their actions. You can't see cause and effect 3 weeks later so don't expect to, and don't expect to know everything because it just makes you some crackpop conspiracy theorist.

okay then lets look at the cause/effects of another conflict in the middle east, iraq. first it was saddam was conspiring with bin laden, no proof of that. then there was the whole weapons of mass destruction fiasco. then haliburton, dick cheney's company or something. and various events after that have led to iraq being a more dangerous place then when saddam was in power. plus with oil prices jacked up, this serves the ceo's and business people who make more money. which means more money can be funded into political parties coffers come election time. which goes back to the whole motives thing of right actions +wrong motives = still wrong.


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If you DO have a problem with what is happening stop pissing and moaning about it on the internet and go out and fucking DO something about it. People like that seriously test my patience.

tinfoil hat, hard hat, no hat whatever i was merely expressing my views. go look up the definition of "forum" in a dicitonary.

this is kind of turning into a mud slinging contest, if i stepped on a few toes i'm sowwy. but i think its better to bitch and moan about something than remain silent and watch. bigs up to the people of libya, syria, yemen i just hope they get what they want.





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